^^^^ This.False information in the review.
Stating things are horrible and unlikly to be fixed which are being changed in the next update.
Failing to state things which are not broken, UI is horrible... for keyboard/mouse, actually is adequate if you get away from that with a few tweaks. (It does say recommends gamepad on the box)
The review while highly highly accurate now, it is all but worthless in 4 days... and either they know it at mmorpg and are releasing it now to please thier sponcers (Bliz and trion feed them tons with advertising fees) or the review has not done any of his homework (most likly answer)... which means his review never had any credibility to begin with.
i know you guys are really fans, but realistically, reviewing an MMO 10 months after is fair, they even bothered to preface it saying that they know patches are coming but they are looking at what is there now. To be perfectly honest, even if they reviewed it after the patch most of the dudes criticisms would still stand, this isnt supposed to be a magic patch, its supposed to be step 1 in a series of steps that will alter the basics of the game. Its not going to add much polish to the game, in fact till 1.9 it will most likely be even rougher, which is fine.
When the game is all that it could be, then people will re review it most likely, but its a review, not a preiview, they cant review a game based on what may or may not happen in 3-6 months, and asking them to wait another 3-6 months to review a game that has been on the market for 10 months? I dont know, ever since this game came out, they have been saying soon, and give us time.
Eventually it reaches the point where people say ok, you have had enough time, what do you have to show, and when you are coming close to you 're anniversary, you can expect this. They basically have two months to show people something that makes them say this is worthwhile, and worth extending that grace period, if its not there by 12 months no you can expect to see a lot more similar reviews with similar results.
Nope. Either you review a MMORPG game right after release (given enough time to experience the game to write about it factually), or you review it AFTER some major patches that make that review relevant.
Reviewing it ten months later out of the blue and four days before a major patch (not to mention little before other major patches that will come between the next couple months) simply means that the review will be irrelevant and inaccurate in four days.
Knowingly doing that simply shows an enormous lack of integrity on the part of the writer and the publisher behind him, giving a base to suspicion about possible ulterior motives.
MMORPG journalism is a complex affair, and timing is everything, due to the fact that patches can change games radically (even if they are not "Miracle patches", which normally don't exist, what does exist is constant and continuated work in the right directluin). Poor timing makes for poor gaming journalism.
You can do it right, or do it wrong. There's no in-between when your work is based on judging someone else's work (which is indeed a delicate job). In this case, they did it wrong.
Last edited by Abriael; 07-19-2011 at 06:48 AM.
Publishing the review when they did was not an accident. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees that. Reviews are worthless and are just catered to the games whose company gives the most hand outs to the website. MMORPG.com's reviews are worthless anyway even without that fact.
Never said you where invalid, I even mentioned FFXIV didn't deserve a good review, all I said is Rift isn't fun for everyone. If you like rift so much then go play it, more power to you. But bringing up Rift as a comparison to FFXIV is stupid and makes no sense. If rift had a bad launch and had to completely redisign the game mechanics then you could compare them, but it didnt so there is nothing to compare other then the fact that they are both MMORPGsYour totally right, because SE does not have high financial backing....or years of experience behind them. And your arguments that because Trion copied other successful mmos somehow makes my original statement invalid. Ok, that is about the same reasoning level as me getting bent at SE for copying Mana and Cure from other RPG's. Ideas come from somewhere, Trion just happened to gather them From EQ/GW/WoW.
In the end...you still haven't managed to put up an intelligent counter my original statement. 10 months is plenty of time to get something done with this game. But hey, in three days....I'll be wrong....maybe.
The mere fact they used the term rumor in their preface is a serious slap in the face of the current dev team working on this game. I am so mad about the wording of the article, I don't even think most of the review is false, most of it is very accurate however it's like they wrote this at release and just decide to publish it now and do not mention any of the changes since then. Yes these changes have been few and far in between but there's something about this 'review' that screams I wrote this 10 months ago, or I played 10 months and have no idea what the game is actually now and I know people are saying changes are coming but these are just 'rumors' by the community and not actually posted on the official site...
/sigh.. It's not a bad review because of the scores, it's a bad review because it's just so darned out dated and insulting for those of us anticipating the nearing patches.
Wow I guess we have some new law here. Oh my fanboys... you gotta love them and their excuses.
The reviewer is getting bashed by most of the comments on the site, but it made me so angry they never check the forums or lodestone and claim to be reputable, the reviewer should be fired on the spot imoThe mere fact they used the term rumor in their preface is a serious slap in the face of the current dev team working on this game. I am so mad about the wording of the article, I don't even think most of the review is false, most of it is very accurate however it's like they wrote this at release and just decide to publish it now and do not mention any of the changes since then. Yes these changes have been few and far in between but there's something about this 'review' that screams I wrote this 10 months ago, or I played 10 months and have no idea what the game is actually now and I know people are saying changes are coming but these are just 'rumors' by the community and not actually posted on the official site...
/sigh.. It's not a bad review because of the scores, it's a bad review because it's just so darned out dated and insulting for those of us anticipating the nearing patches.
Oh the haters... you got to love how they desperately cling onto a forum of a game they hate in hopes that everyone will agree with them because they are always right no matter what.
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