So resetting's against the rules now?

[Yukiko]

5 minutes waiting is ok, but on our server i noticed that the location is kept secret because only in FC or LS they tell the locations and when its public shouted its already dead...

01:06 <pos>
01:06 someone pulled
01:07 dead

10 Minutes? Never seen it - maybe you should shout public...
Do you like that more? Its same extreme as waiting 10 minutes with the dont pull, dont pull...

[Talathion]

Hey guys, the Talathion here.

There is nothing wrong with this tactic, it is actually a great tactic and has been used in contested games for ages. If you don't like it you can roll a tank and use your abilities to pull the mob back. However you shouldn't get "banned" or "suspended" for using your abilities, or you may as well ban every tank on the server for doing their job.

[Gazille]

It might be kind, but its a bit of a dick move for the people already there. You should stop doing it.

[Talathion]

It might be kind, but its a bit of a dick move for the people already there. You should stop doing it.

It doesn't really matter if it is or isn't. You have the ability to learn to tank and do it yourself and make sure it doesn't reset. If you didn't have that ability I would say the same, but you do.

[Alukah]

Hey guys, the Talathion here.

There is nothing wrong with this tactic, it is actually a great tactic and has been used in contested games for ages. If you don't like it you can roll a tank and use your abilities to pull the mob back. However you shouldn't get "banned" or "suspended" for using your abilities, or you may as well ban every tank on the server for doing their job.

I didn't know tanking abilities were given to tank just so they can grief others.

The more you know.

Deceptions Wrath that mentality would never work on hyperion. I'm so glad that I'm part of a server where the majority of people atleast are not in that competative manor but trying to help as many as possible instead of thinking about just their own group. As long as your hate build on the mob with your group is high enough it doesnt matter really. Its sad that you would ruin other peoples gameplay if you would still get full credit. I'm not pointing fingers maybe the mentality is like that on Leviathan all I can say its too bad its like that where you are. I can't speak for all servers but im glad that over 20 groups have a mutual agreement when farming these hunts since we are all connected to eachothers linkshells one way or another.

You are so delusional it's just cute. There was another thread not so long ago, one of your sheeps defending the current system of Hyperion while the minority was complaining about how they are mistreated, do you just turn a blind eye to those people?

[Thayos]

There was another thread not so long ago, one of your sheeps defending the current system of Hyperion while the minority was complaining about how they are mistreated, do you just turn a blind eye to those people?

Nobody ignores them... they can join a party just as easily as anyone else, but they choose not to. Trust me, the hunt groups would rather work cooperatively with everyone, rather than have a handful of people who are insistent on doing things their own way, social norms/etiquette be damned.

It's not against the rules to be a snowflake, but there are times they cause lots of grief to the majority of hunters.

Also, I've seen this falsely stated numerous times recently, but if you're in a full (or even mostly full) party you will ALMOST ALWAYS get full credit on A ranks... and although I've tapered off a bit in the past week, I've spent many, many hours hunting since the patch.

People keep acting like getting full credit in a full party is a total crapshoot, and that couldn't be more deceiving.

P.S. Did hunts for an hour or so yesterday. Didn't witness a single reset... but there was still plenty of grief and hostility caused by people pulling as soon as they ran up to the mob. How much worse does this have to get before people realize that early pulling/refusal to cooperate is the catalyst for all the drama?

[Talathion]

I didn't know tanking abilities were given to tank just so they can grief others.

The more you know.

Maybe that is why its called a "taunt", because your taunting an enemy: Aka causing them grief so they attack you. Its roleplay wise and makes sense lore wise.

What doesn't make sense though is the mob leashing. It should go on forever following the guy. Even maybe gain a speed boost because of how angry he or she is.

[Mcshiggs]

P.S. Did hunts for an hour or so yesterday. Didn't witness a single reset... but there was still plenty of grief and hostility caused by people pulling as soon as they ran up to the mob. How much worse does this have to get before people realize that early pulling/refusal to cooperate is the catalyst for all the drama?

I can only hope the reason for the decline in resets is that all the reporting of those resetting is getting results.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

If the game came out in August 27, 2013 with ToS, and Hunts came out in Patch 2.3, how can resetting a Hunt be against ToS when those rules were made last year?

[Mcshiggs]

If the game came out in August 27, 2013 with ToS, and Hunts came out in Patch 2.3, how can resetting a Hunt be against ToS when those rules were made last year?

Resetting marks disrupts the play of those that were already there fighting it, in the ToS there is a section that says disrupting the play of others is against ToS.

Greetings, all!
To begin, at its most basic level, resetting hunt marks can be considered a grief tactics violation. This post will be discussing grief tactics in general as a violation of the rules, and that general discussion would apply to this particular topic, as well as any number of related topics (MPK, zone disruption, etc.). If you would like a point of reference for this rule, you can find it under the FINAL FANTASY XIV User Agreement, specifically section 3.2:

Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including the disruption of Square Enix's computers and servers.

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