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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    No, you can't
    Yes I can, yes I have, and yes I did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tygg View Post
    Everything you said is true. It only becomes a problem when the "Pro" players are just chortling or kicking these players instead of teaching them how to be better (given they are willing to listen). This is how he cultivate a healthy and friendly community. Sadly, this is not the norm found anymore.
    yup because that "pro" player behavior gets transferred to "casuals" player base.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 08-12-2014 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Yes I can, yes I have, and yes I did.
    If this is really your methods then that is probably why you still haven't beat T6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    If this is really your methods then that is probably why you still haven't beat T6.
    I haven't beaten it because I don't care about second coil of bahamut and thus I ain't doing it.

    Guess your parsers couldn't explain that to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    I haven't beaten it because I don't care about second coil of bahamut and thus I ain't doing it.

    Guess your parsers couldn't explain that to you.
    Yep, I'm totally sure the reason isn't because you can't get a static for it when you test your dps potential by tallying numbers on level 49 monsters. /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    Yep, I'm totally sure the reason isn't because you can't get a static for it when you test your dps potential by tallying numbers on level 49 monsters. /sarcasm
    If you need parsers to know a rotation then I really feel sorry for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    If you need parsers to know a rotation then I really feel sorry for you.
    Seriously? When a scientist first steps out to make a hypothesis he wants the facts/data. Perhaps we should feel sorry for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubblesz View Post
    Seriously? When a scientist first steps out to make a hypothesis he wants the facts/data. Perhaps we should feel sorry for you.
    What you say is correct, but you also don't need math to know a bigger rock is going to hurt more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubblesz View Post
    Seriously? When a scientist first steps out to make a hypothesis he wants the facts/data. Perhaps we should feel sorry for you.
    level from 1-50 and learn nothing. You sure told me about scientist and facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I suspect the problem isn't parsers in general, but rather the people you played with.
    You suspected wrong and I'm not gonna bother naming every little god damn thing that's happened in pugs where people use parsers but are misinformed because they weren't paying attention to the fight itself to realize what really went wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    And part of the process of checking and testing mechanics in Savage Coil is digging through parser output to understand what they need to be achieving to clear the content.
    Sorry but when I was in WoW most world first "boss" clears are not based on using meters but communication between progression guilds during downtime unless they actually communicated between fights. "Pro-tip that is happening in the current end game scene of FFXIV."

    Yet you don't have to take my word for it and can believe on the parser data. All it ever did in WoW just simply gather pointless dps information that can be gotten even without it's presence. People that record fights would even spot the, exact why, faster than those bothering with crunching a log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    If you need parsers to know a rotation then I really feel sorry for you.
    Once the mechanics in an encounter starts, a rotation takes the garbage can and everything becomes a priority system. If you don't even know as much, your input about the uses of a parser are irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    level from 1-50 and learn nothing. You sure told me about scientist and facts.
    Because leveling content can totally be compared with actual challenging content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Sorry but when I was in WoW most world first "boss" clears are not based on using meters but communication between progression guilds during downtime unless they actually communicated between fights. "Pro-tip that is happening in the current end game scene of FFXIV."
    You've totally just proven you have not a clue what you're talking about. World first guild in WoW will not communicate with other guilds for progression since all of them want to be number one. Heck, a some of them strips their character naked and change their talents before logging off to make sure their competition don't see what they use. They are also using meters from which they keep the log privates while also recording encounters to make sure they can watch them later and see what they can improve.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 08-12-2014 at 06:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I hope you were at least a little proactive and reported these people?
    There's nothing proactive about reporting those players since I was never the one being criticized those that were are the ones that need to do the reporting and as far these threads go they aren't a threat to me so what is there for me to report.

    All I see is people trying to justify a tool which it's only purpose is QoL but can't admit to the sheer reason why they truly depend on it and because of that shady behavior they can't be taken seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Because leveling content can totally be compared
    If you're not taking your leveling seriously enough to even use a rotation then you only set yourself up for a struggling chore at end game when organizing your bar ends up a chore.

    Yet if that's the type of player you enjoy being so be it. Once rogue/ninja is release I wonder how many players are gonna struggle at level 50 trying to figure out a rotation that they could've figured out through leveling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    you have not a clue
    I was part of that kind of end-game scene so jokes on you.
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 08-12-2014 at 06:51 AM.

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