SE's most difinitive statement yet on parsers

[PrimeEvilPanda]

I was not against parsers because they didn't affect me personally - until if I'm reading this right: parser users consist of the radar app users because it's all in the ONE app? Is this correct?

[Barimu]

Honestly, all the people against parsers are probably people with horrible dps and are bitter about it.

[Taruranto]

I was not against parsers because they didn't affect me personally - until if I'm reading this right: parser users consist of the radar app users because it's all in the ONE app? Is this correct?

Nope, different plugins.

[Terless]

High enough is fine within reason. As for ignorance you must think I mean low dps to be 1k a minute is okay, I mean seriously people jump just because someone output 500 less than everyone else. I've seen tables on redit for hardcore streamline dps that only the elitist of players can attain with the idea that everyone else needs to be that high when being parsed. You know where anyone that thinks like that can stick it.

Not sure but the last time I checked, dps =/= dpm, of course 1kdpm = 16.6dps, and if you meant 500 dps less than the others in the party, then I believe everyone would rage.

[Tashigi]

I was not against parsers because they didn't affect me personally - until if I'm reading this right: parser users consist of the radar app users because it's all in the ONE app? Is this correct?

Radar is a different plugin. The app uses several plugins that you can add/install and then turn on. Commonly it only comes with DPS meter installed; everything else you gotta install yourself.
Though, if you've read what Radar actually does, you'll find that it's quite trash for Hunts anyway.

[Shougun]

I was not against parsers because they didn't affect me personally - until if I'm reading this right: parser users consist of the radar app users because it's all in the ONE app? Is this correct?

For the one that was posted on the forums, it is the same app(lication) but to my knowledge from its reddit page is in pieces you can choose to have or not. (Hence Taruranto's plugins response, though technically it is all in one app still). I would imagine the radar posted on the forums is not the only one though.

Reading for SE's txt log doesnt include all the information you need, the game memory can- but allowing one reading of game information means radar is also available. Banning and /actively/ enforcing no third party applications and having official gui mods would really help this situation.. lol

[Elven]

I'd love for you to quote where I said they were essential. I can quote several times in the thread where I've stated I haven't even used one, much less downloaded one for FFXIV. In fact the analogies I was using a stopwatch for was for a PT test. They weren't essential there either, but they were pretty damn helpful.

It doesn't matter how you meant it my point still stands a stop watch is essential a parser is not wether you personally use them or not.

[Alise]

All the people talk here and discuss many stuffs..
I wonder if there is actually any use?

[PrimeEvilPanda]

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:/ DPS parser app didn't affect me because it stayed within the confines of the raiding groups - sort of like my lawn; they didn't trespass into it [my casual play], so I kinda had no reason to go off at them [with a shotgun]. If I ever raided with a proper raid group, I KNEW this would be the requirement by some groups so it was my own fault for complaining if I didn't like their set-up.

With the stupid radar app being used in Hunts, it affects the WHOLE community because the Hunt is affecting all aspects of the game. I can't condone the use of one app without disagreeing with the other.

Legit DPS parsers built-in this game is something I wouldn't mind, if only because I'm old school and I've had them in other games, so I essentially Have NOT seen them negatively used (if anything, teleport hacks/bots were the bigger uproar for me and my friends in past MMO's).

[Krr]

So with this thread at 29 pages I have to ask, and sort of reiterate...

You all who're excited to see the death of those elitist DPS-checkers know that this 'definitive statement' on parsers has been the case for over eight months now, right?

It's not news that it's against TOS, and it was being banned for a long time before the week this thread was made. A long time.