SMN Novus, what did you do!

[Alukah]

@SirSaber Perhaps other people do other things for gil (like crafting) SB is not the best money making method and it's not a reliable way to get IVs. If someone considers a bit of extra crit/det to be worth the effort of farming 5-~10+ millions (depending on server) then to each their own :P

@Yukiko Unless your bard is using ballad very often it's hard to believe you don't have MP issues in battles where you fight non-stop. I really recommend trying out using ruin 2 before using a skill that is not in your GCD, it's a DPS increase overall. If you use (for example) ruin > fester > ruin > enkindle you will be using at least three GCD times, but if you use replace ruin with ruin II you will be able to use those 'out of GCD' abilities BEFORE your GCD is up, you don't have to spam ruin II, just use it before these special skills.

Not asking you to believe me, but just please try it on a training dummy.

[Yukiko]

ruin > fester > ruin > enkindle

Yea i know, and thats why i said to try another rotation...
And sorry, thats Ruin II spam...

Yes training dummy is my friend, and if it works for you, i dont have problems with it, why starting a discussion?

[Alukah]

Yea i know, and thats why i said to try another rotation...
And sorry, thats Ruin II spam...

Yes training dummy is my friend, and if it works for you, i dont have problems with it, why starting a discussion?

It was an example, but if you're getting this defensive over a suggestion alright then.

[Yukiko]

It was an example, but if you're getting this defensive over a suggestion alright then.

Do you even know what you are talking?
Look at Date, i am repeating myself and its not getting defensive, i try to stop this off-tpoic bullshit...

Does it work for you?
Yes, then its fine!
No, then try it out!

You comming with an example of rotation is good, but we were talking about Ruin II spaming.
You say it is not spaming, i say it is, so we cleared that part of missunderstanding, next please?

I dont expect to stop this stupid discussion from Dwill but that you are that sort of player too... havnt expected.

Edit: Back then in 2.0 when we were on T5 struggling i switched from Ruin II rotation to Ruin rotation, but thats another story and its fun you are on that edge now

[Dwill]

Do you even know what you are talking?
Look at Date, i am repeating myself and its not getting defensive, i try to stop this off-tpoic bullshit...

Does it work for you?
Yes, then its fine!
No, then try it out!

You comming with an example of rotation is good, but we were talking about Ruin II spaming.
You say it is not spaming, i say it is, so we cleared that part of missunderstanding, next please?

I dont expect to stop this stupid discussion from Dwill but that you are that sort of player too... havnt expected.

Edit: Back then in 2.0 when we were on T5 struggling i switched from Ruin II rotation to Ruin rotation, but thats another story and its fun you are on that edge now

Spamming = Ruin II > Ruin II > Ruin II > Ruin II > Ruin II
Weaving = Ruin II > Fester > Ruin II > Aetherflow > Ruin II > Rouse > Ruin II > Spur

But hey, if you don't want to perform optimally, that's all up to you.