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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I am not starving, and i done T8, but sure... i must be wrong, yes?
    You may try an other rotation?
    When I play SMN, if it's not T7, I'm going all out. I'm using ALL the tools at my disposal. Ruin 2 before every oGCD ability (Fester, Rouse, Spur, Enkindle), Miasma 2 + HQ Potent Poison Potions before every Contagion, HQ Elixirs; If I have to use Energy Drain even once I know my DPS is going to drop, it's one less Fester and a loss to sustained DPS.

    Imo, if it's worth doing it's worth overdoing. If your bard plays songs on set intervals (including Ballad into the mix) then your MP isn't going to tank, Our designated song Bard doesn't, he cares more about his own DPS and only plays Paeon at set intervals. Me and the healers (if they have to raise our BLM and MNK constantly) have to beg for Ballad practically.

    There's no "other rotation" when I'm already using everything given to me to keep my DPS high for the sake of the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I am not starving, and i done T8, but sure... i must be wrong, yes?
    You may try an other rotation?
    I'll say it plain and simple. If you do T8 and you don't get MP starved at one point where Ballad would be needed, you're doing it wrong.
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    Player Tsuwu's Avatar
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    Basically a 13,000,000gil clone of Book of Spades.
    Also glowy.
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    Adelfia Balfegar
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    Is it that hard to farm your own Materia ?

    I've made my materia myself by crafting / buying white ilvl49 melded gear , drinking a spiritbound pot and go hit some lvl50 mobs for +/-1h.
    Like that I've got my Materias and EXP on my chocobo ( and some money too ).

    But to each his own I guess.
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSaber View Post
    Is it that hard to farm your own Materia ?
    With that RNG, definetly YES !
    Getting a lot elemental materias...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    With that RNG, definetly YES !
    Getting a lot elemental materias...
    I got them too you know ? And made them into money.
    In Ragnarok the Elemental IVs are worth like 15k ish gil.

    But I never stopped and I'm still doing, you can never have enough materia.
    It's just 1h, not more really, you'll win so much from it even with all the elemental ones.

    I've done this since 2.0 where I had to farm in Castrum to get those Materia needed for creating the Relic, it was there when I've noticed how well materia sell.

    Now I spiritbond craft gear with combat gear at the same time to get some craft/gathering materias too.
    And all I do is invest 1h +/- of my game time.

    Not everyday ofc, some days I have coil or other events but just doing my 3 to 4 days of spiritbounding I make enough money to buy all new pets like they're worth nothing :P
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    Last edited by SirSaber; 08-09-2014 at 08:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSaber View Post
    In Ragnarok the Elemental IVs are worth like 15k ish gil.
    You need 600k gil for assassin IV, so yea, lets guess after 40h of nonstop farming you will get 1! Materia, luckily you fail when trying to add in scroll, so lets say 80h of farming...
    but only if they buy it, sometimes you need to wait days untill someone bought yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
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    If you only look it that way then nothing is worth.
    If I would think your way I would not even start doing atmas because you either get an atma or nothing at all.

    Why not just spiritbound for the money? And you will get money even if you had an unlucky pick.
    Also when I said I go spiritbound equipment I didn't mean 1 equipment.
    I only keep my mains weapon and a meteor ring equiped everything else is ilvl49 white gear to convert.
    So that's 9 items in that 1h of spiritbonding and only if you're dead unlucky you'll only see elementals otherwise you'll get interesting stuff.

    I'll leave it at that, just wanted to share my opinion on using materia iv for novus which I find to be the way to go.
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    Player Tsuwu's Avatar
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    Farming materia is really impractical with RNG.
    I just corner markets. Shards in particular.
    For a few weeks, I had the price of fire shards almost quadrupled.
    Was making 300% outright profit for literally nothing.

    Materias, however, are a harder commodity to manipulate because of the RNG nature.
    Though I do need to look into it. Insane profit potential.
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    @NintenPyjak64: It becomes way too off topic and i will not follow your "I am better than you path"...
    Its on you if you consider my suggestion if not, well then nothing i can do here any more!
    Do you have a stram from your combat? It would make analysing it much simpler, there are other factors that are playing a role and not only your rotation of skills.

    Just a sidenote: you said to "force GCD" and that was something that let me think your rotation is wrong, your GCD should never "sleep" ... whatever - if it works for you, fine, i do no care!

    @Dwill: I say it again: If a SMN gets problems with mana there is something wrong in the group! (spaming Ruin II may explains it too)

    @SirSaber: Because to get gil its easier and much faster to do it otherwise, easily getting on Ragnarok 6M - you just need to be one of the first sellers
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 08-10-2014 at 04:45 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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