Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
Anyone who has to rely on a program is a crappy player.

They can say they are good but they aren't, a good player could win with what is presented to them.

You can tell yourself no all you want or others, you are the one using the program to get the best possible results its almost like a gameshark, a person doesn't have 10 more strength but character sucks so you can't win so you replace it with a code just to win the fight.

so instead of struggling and trying your best you get someone else, that is way better than you are, I mean you couldn't win with this other person in party but once you get the guy who has better stats, that carries you through the dungeon fight or whatever it is, you think you guys are big time players. you suck cause you couldn't win without that person.

and that program and im not talking about vent.
You know that you're blatantly wrong, right?

Firstly, comparing a parser to a cheating device(ie gameshark in your example) alone destroys any credibility you have. One just compiles information that's already given to the player in game into an easier to read format. Yes, given to the player already. The other literally breaks part of the games code to cheat.

Secondly, your description of a "good" player is wrong. True good players will use tools such as parsers to help improve themselves. Not just automatically think they're good. People who think like that usually aren't the good players. It's something similar to the Dunning–Kruger effect explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect The good player will always question himself and seek ways to improve. Parsers help with this process since it allows them to more easily and quickly assess the information that we've already been given via the log and on screen damage displays. On the opposite end, the "poor" player won't, he already thinks he's doing well and never questions it until it's proven he's not doing well. But the thing is, outside of being poor at dodging, proving it is effectively disallowed right now. But if you read that wiki article, usually once you can prove it to the person, they start to judge themselves properly, but of course, this being the net, that will likely not happen as often.

Lastly, once official addons are implemented, there's a tidbit about them Yoshi mentioned. He said they will have access to information the client does, such as damage information. So, look forward to it.