Do you like going into new fights raw?

[Dagger_32]

Id much prefer to go in blind and figure things out, you know, how one usually plays and beats game content. Unfortunately MMO's are the only genre where its noraml and even expected to 'cheat' using guides and what not. Its not even considered cheating with the players, they call it "learning" the fights, lol. If I were to read a guide on say The Last of Us, FFXIII or any other type of game id feel pretty stupid in the end. Not MMO's! Nope, and if you dont read/watch guides for MMO's... everyone else makes sure you feel "pretty stupid" for not cheating. And the worst part of all this is MMOs are just about the easiest @#^$ing games to play.

..... /sigh

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I will never understand everyone's guide dependency. Put the guide/video/walk through down and PLAY the game. Learn for yourself. This guide nonsense drives me crazy.

[MachaMaeve]

My FC and i went into turn 6 blind last night. It was very amusing.

[Divine_Intervention]

I'm not big on the guides myself. I much prefer the holy crap what was that moment of new fights. Sure, if i keep failing repeatedly on a certain mechanic, i'll ask for some advice, or i'll hit 'ol google up to figure out that particular part.

TL;DR - Raw - yep!

[NJA]

I read brief written guides, no videos; would prefer everything blind, but as a healer I feel I have a duty not to wipe everyone by missing a key mechanic. Currently catching up on main story and looking forward to being first into new content when it comes out!

[Delsus]

I love walking in blind, and learning fights myself, the only fights I have watched a video for is Garuda Ex and Twintania, everything else I have done completely blind, if you can get a likeminded group these are so much fun, wiping, working out why you wiped and you progress more than following a video guide, because it's easier to learn doing it rather than watching it.

[Malamasala]

Hardest part for me is knowing what can be done blind and what can't. Most dungeons I did and it went fine as long as there was one person there who could give tips. But it is also sad when you join something that is ridiculously confusing and you end up feeling you let the entire party down because SE had not warned that the following content was too hard without watching videos first.

[silentwindfr]

i love to find the trick and gimmick of the boss, then, generally i tend to not check video or guide... and when i check it, i simply check the type of attack, i think i'm clever enough for find a counter-mesure for most of the mechanic used in FF14 so far, nothing really hard. but well i have a huge passive of raiding behind me.

note, the only mechanic that have let me out was the dive and twister of twin, mostly because they are artificially harder to figure by beind invisible! and i think a lot of group have still hard time with her because of this, the artificially way to increase the difficulty of the fight by making mechanic invisible.

[ValkyrieL]

New content, DF is fine
Pre-made, Old content is fine
DF old content is terrible, and this is the reason why T5/EX have terrible success rate, because "ONE" person thinks they can just go in there clueless, not guide/video, nothing. well that "ONE" person just fck up 7 others in there DF success.

[Dagger_32]

New content, DF is fine
Pre-made, Old content is fine
DF old content is terrible, and this is the reason why T5/EX have terrible success rate, because "ONE" person thinks they can just go in there clueless, not guide/video, nothing. well that "ONE" person just fck up 7 others in there DF success.

So make a party? DF is for everyone with every play style. If you are looking for something specific create a party. It's really that simple. Expecting people to watch videos to meet YOUR play style is insane. I would never watch a video before experiencing a battle first hand. I would never read a guide on something I have not faced myself.

I have posted this before but it perfectly sums up my thoughts on all this:

Alright guys...back in my day we had to walk 15 miles barefoot in the snow.....hahahaha...just kidding! Here goes:

My generation of gamers and today's gamers like us, spend hours learning the mechanics of games. We learned how to play to our fullest to take advantage of a game's system. Guides, pfft, WE WROTE THEM! Watching videos (VHS, LMAO) for tactics was unheard of.

I have noticed a lot of posts on these boards, "People are only concerned about the endgame, rush rush rush end game." Me? Not so much. I like the journey, I like learning. I love failing and failing and failing, only to eventually succeed! Not because I was TOLD what to do, but because I FIGURED IT OUT. Being told what to do ruins games for me. The entire endgame of FFXIV has been people telling me what to do. Where is the fun in that?

I have tried to make "learning" parties. I challenge all of you to go into PF and make a learning party for anything that is not coil and let me know how that goes. No one WANTS to learn, people WANT to be told what to do. That is just not something I understand. Why are you playing a game, if you are being told what to do? Why are you given different rotations/armor/weapons if it is only acceptable to use certain ones? Why are players shunned for experimenting and not playing a certain way, shouldn't this be encouraged? Break the mold and find an even better way to do it, that's how I roll.

Yes, yes I know, learn on your own time, don't waste mine! Personally I feel that attitude is destroying MMOs, it's not the "theme park casual carnival" everyone says it is. It is deep game, with various different ways to beat the exact same boss, but too many people want to use the proven way that worked before, too many people are afraid to break from the mold to try anything new, and way too many people are content being TOLD what to do, because they are not there to play and have fun, they are there for loot, loot, loot, loot, loot! Nothing else matters and it kills what could be a very unique community.

I have posted this before, SE needs to implement a system within DF, you queue up for DF as normal but you are given an option: Explore or Speed Run
Explore: For new people and people who want to take their time through the dungeon
Speed Run: For people who just want to go for the loot

Anyways, that is my 2 cents on this topic. I understand people do not want their time to be wasted, however, what about the flip side, some people actually WANT to learn but are given no time to.

[SwashBuccaneer]

I'd rather go in blind and figure things out more as I go. Especially as a Tank. Keeps me sharp and on the top of my game. :P

Rather do that than simply memorize a guide and the regurgitate the information. It's a game not a damn school class.