Please Advertise the PS3 Version Effectively

[ShinChuck]

Edit: Way to cut my post ShinChuck, I did in fact contribute. Suck it up already!!! Go read the rest instead of being sidetracked by your insecurities lmao Have anything constructive to say?

My original post was constructive, IMO.

I was sidetracked by my insecurities? You could've been the bigger person, cut that first part of your post, and been ENTIRELY CONSTRUCTIVE instead of accusatory. Instead, YOU felt the need to point out how everyone else WASN'T, which is counterproductive to your own argument. That's on you, and you're still doing it - pot, meet kettle.

[Kailok]

Now we really are getting off topic, warranted or not.


On topic:

I think it solely depends on what their ETA for the server, engine and MAP layout fixes are. Once those are out of the door, the rest of the features can be implemented relatively easily and fast (within three months).

I think it's safe to say that the battle system and the overall game design will be close to finished by the end of the year. But I wouldn't be too optimistic to see the three largest fixes to be out of the door during this year. How long does it take to make an expansion? A year, a year and a half? That's the timeframe we're probably looking at.

It's not a bad thing though. We'll get lots of content during the waiting period, within the limitations of the current engine and server however, but still.

Yeah, I'm trying not to be TOO optimistic because this is in fact SE. While I do appreciate what's been going on lately with their giving of information, and the battle updates being seemingly nice, I still try not to give them too much credit just yet. Not TOO much anyway. lol

I just hope we can at least call the things to come something what of the "Rebirth Expansion". Not something we had to pay for, but big enough to be considered it's own Expansion in a way lol.

[ShinChuck]

Now we really are getting off topic, warranted or not.

Fair enough, I'm done.

I really do think an enhanced social presence would do a lot. The Producer's Letters and community reps are nice, but the free advertising stuff like Twitter and Facebook can offer is pretty hard to argue with.

I wonder how important it might be to go after the fanbase who left? I mean, what about some sweet extras for those who get the PS3 version, or an FFXI event with a FFXIV re-release theme? Maybe like some tie-in what-if storyline? I'm not entirely sure it'd be worth SE's effort to market to XI players, as I imagine there's probably a lot of overlap already, but maybe enough have gone back this would entice them to give it another go?

Maybe throws in free trials with other Square Enix releases? In this day and age, it wouldn't be hard to have the PS3 version downloadable as well, maybe throw a free month trial (assuming they're charging by then) with releases like XIII Versus or -2?

I also liked Rift's comic book prequel tie-in, and their "We're not in Azeroth!" anymore tagline, but I don't know if that's a direction SE would like to go.

[Betelgeuzah]

I just hope we can at least call the things to come something what of the "Rebirth Expansion". Not something we had to pay for, but big enough to be considered it's own Expansion in a way lol.

Well, the world is going to double in size by the time the vanilla ends. This paired with the redesign of the existing areas.. it may not be called an expansion but it sure as hell is going to takeas much resources to pull off.

[Arcell]

I also liked Rift's comic book prequel tie-in, and their "We're not in Azeroth!" anymore tagline, but I don't know if that's a direction SE would like to go.

They added in that tagline because they felt you really needed to be constantly reminded of that fact otherwise you'd think you were!

[Kailok]

Fair enough, I'm done.

I really do think an enhanced social presence would do a lot. The Producer's Letters and community reps are nice, but the free advertising stuff like Twitter and Facebook can offer is pretty hard to argue with.

I wonder how important it might be to go after the fanbase who left? I mean, what about some sweet extras for those who get the PS3 version, or an FFXI event with a FFXIV re-release theme? Maybe like some tie-in what-if storyline? I'm not entirely sure it'd be worth SE's effort to market to XI players, as I imagine there's probably a lot of overlap already, but maybe enough have gone back this would entice them to give it another go?

Maybe throws in free trials with other Square Enix releases? In this day and age, it wouldn't be hard to have the PS3 version downloadable as well, maybe throw a free month trial (assuming they're charging by then) with releases like XIII Versus or -2?

I also liked Rift's comic book prequel tie-in, and their "We're not in Azeroth!" anymore tagline, but I don't know if that's a direction SE would like to go.

Well I'm sure most players who went back to FFXI are probably still keeping up with updates and such, or have friends informing them of when they should come back, stuff like that. What I'm worried about is that audience SE has been trying to capture since before release. The non-XI players are few and far between. Every single person in my LS came from FFXI and played for over 4-5+ years. While that's good and all, I'd like to see new blood. If they want the Ps3 version to be the saving grace, they need to get themselves out there PAST their own product (FFXI) because people in FFXI already know about it.

Not to say your idea wasn't good or anything, I'm just saying people probably already know.

[Kailok]

Well, the world is going to double in size by the time the vanilla ends. This paired with the redesign of the existing areas.. it may not be called an expansion but it sure as hell is going to takeas much resources to pull off.

I sure as hell hope so. I wonder how long it will take them to rework the existing areas..I'm not a game dev (yet, going to school now) so I don't know the process. I know it's a big undertaking though.

[ShinChuck]

Well I'm sure most players who went back to FFXI are probably still keeping up with updates and such, or have friends informing them of when they should come back, stuff like that. What I'm worried about is that audience SE has been trying to capture since before release. The non-XI players are few and far between. Every single person in my LS came from FFXI and played for over 4-5+ years. While that's good and all, I'd like to see new blood. If they want the Ps3 version to be the saving grace, they need to get themselves out there PAST their own product (FFXI) because people in FFXI already know about it.

Not to say your idea wasn't good or anything, I'm just saying people probably already know.

Fair enough, was kinda thinking that, just throwing ideas out there. Personally, I DO think an XIV-theme XIV event would be neat, but I agree, it's probably not worth their time and effort when all is said and done. Oh well.

[Leenk]

I use IGN for most of my game reviews and when 14 came out they gave it alot of attention. They had a week worth of small "reviews" that touched on different aspects before releasing their actual review. To be honest, it felt like they very much wanted to like this game.
i know that sounds off topic, but what im getting at is that with the proper advertising and re-introduction to critics and such, it's not like people arent willing to advertise via word of mouth. If they advertise properly and re-introduce this game to the media in the right manner, the places we go for our gaming info should have no problem putting out the word that this game is much improved.
Square doesnt have to work overly hard to get the news out. They just have to do more than they did the first time around

[Kailok]

Fair enough, was kinda thinking that, just throwing ideas out there. Personally, I DO think an XIV-theme XIV event would be neat, but I agree, it's probably not worth their time and effort when all is said and done. Oh well.

I did like your idea though! It'd be interesting to see how they would pull that off! I just don't see them doing it, because it IS SE and we know them to be stingy :\