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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    However, the fact that we'll probably be getting the PS3 version within the next 6 months,
    Whoa, yeah? I missed them giving a date, where did this happen?
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    I agree with OP.

    These are very, very standard ways of doing things and getting your name out there, and for some reason Square didn't seem to follow through on it the first time around. Even the smallest Indie devs do interviews to hype their games and advertise on related sides, and official Facebooks are easy, free advertising that your fanbase does for you. Common sense stuff that just about everyone does, because it's easy marketing.

    I guess we'll see, if or when the PS3 version drops.
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    Loool, 6 months you say? Only if they want to repeat September 2010.

    The PC version sold well even without advertising. However, they really need to up the stakes for the PS3 release (give a free copy with versus XIII!)

    Too bad their PR team is incompetent. their latest v. XIII info was a disaster. "We'll show the famitsu editors three in-game pics but we won't release them to the public!"

    Seriously, who the hell are they selling their games to? The famitsu editors or the fans? Goddamn.

    Did I mention the Closed Mega Theater in 2009? Trailers shown to the media, and we get to see a crappy cam recorded tidbits at best.

    Thank God XIV PR is much less annoying, but still in a sad state compared to everything else.
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    Only 2 constructive posts? The question wasn't saying or implying it was or wasn't ready for advertising, just what they should do when it gets to be that time and how to help promote the games... Way to get off topic most of you just so you can have a chance to complain more LoL Here have a tissue xD

    Anyways They need to invest HEAVILY into advertising including even outsourcing to a ton of different ad agencies all over since FF is a worldwide game/server type game like 11. Leenk and Raistlin have the right idea's haha Need to add some celebrity/humor to their ads as well as get critics to appreciate the changes for way better. (Even though most critics are douches when it comes to non fps games xD and are rarely analytical enough for their position) In some of these ads they NEED to also acknowledge not only all the changes and the new team that took over but their failures before as well as even the ability to laugh at themselves. Need to expand outside a normal serious SE advertising, rather than the typical cg/partial gameplay commercial and call it quits, they HAVE to add more flavor to it when the time comes!
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    SE advertising is great and all but the interviews and whatnot you mentioned are more important than anything. If people don't know that things have drastically changed for the better then people simply aren't going to care even if they do see advertising. I've been letting the people at my local gamestop know that the game is drastically changing and that come PS3 launch it'll be great. Every time I go in there we discuss it for a few minutes at least. Most having not played XIV they simply know what they've heard, that it's awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Loool, 6 months you say? Only if they want to repeat September 2010.

    The PC version sold well even without advertising. However, they really need to up the stakes for the PS3 release (give a free copy with versus XIII!)

    Too bad their PR team is incompetent. their latest v. XIII info was a disaster. "We'll show the famitsu editors three in-game pics but we won't release them to the public!"

    Seriously, who the hell are they selling their games to? The famitsu editors or the fans? Goddamn.

    Did I mention the Closed Mega Theater in 2009? Trailers shown to the media, and we get to see a crappy cam recorded tidbits at best.

    Thank God XIV PR is much less annoying, but still in a sad state compared to everything else.
    My bad, I was actually thinking 6 months from the end of summer (around March 2012). Considering the fact that they stated that they are programming everything to the ps3 version alongside the PC version, hopefully by March we'll at least be close to a release date. I hope by then, 6 months after the battle changes, some real content has been added to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    Only 2 constructive posts? The question wasn't saying or implying it was or wasn't ready for advertising, just what they should do when it gets to be that time and how to help promote the games... Way to get off topic most of you just so you can have a chance to complain more LoL Here have a tissue xD
    And this isn't off topic? I'm just saying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    SE advertising is great and all but the interviews and whatnot you mentioned are more important than anything. If people don't know that things have drastically changed for the better then people simply aren't going to care even if they do see advertising. I've been letting the people at my local gamestop know that the game is drastically changing and that come PS3 launch it'll be great. Every time I go in there we discuss it for a few minutes at least. Most having not played XIV they simply know what they've heard, that it's awful.
    Very true, only have 2 RL friends I ever got to play with on FF 14. The bad press and bad word of mouth makes the rest not even want to touch it and they also naturally don't keep up with news regarding the game.

    On a side note I think it's a good idea to get the game before subs or ps3 start up again as I'm sure they'll sell the game for its normal or near normal price. It's as low as $5 in some places cause it doesn't sell and alot of companies throw it in their bargain bin items. Hoping they don't charge for the xpac either, as much as they are hurting I think they need the expansion as basically a free downloadable to get even more trust back from the people. After they release that THEN they can worry about revenue!

    Edit: Way to cut my post ShinChuck, I did in fact contribute. Suck it up already!!! Go read the rest instead of being sidetracked by your insecurities lmao Have anything constructive to say? Nope didn't think so *facepalm*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    My bad, I was actually thinking 6 months from the end of summer (around March 2012). Considering the fact that they stated that they are programming everything to the ps3 version alongside the PC version, hopefully by March we'll at least be close to a release date. I hope by then, 6 months after the battle changes, some real content has been added to the game.
    I think it solely depends on what their ETA for the server, engine and MAP layout fixes are. Once those are out of the door, the rest of the features can be implemented relatively easily and fast (within three months).

    I think it's safe to say that the battle system and the overall game design will be close to finished by the end of the year. But I wouldn't be too optimistic to see the three largest fixes to be out of the door during this year. How long does it take to make an expansion? A year, a year and a half? That's the timeframe we're probably looking at.

    It's not a bad thing though. We'll get lots of content during the waiting period, within the limitations of the current engine and server however, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    Edit: Way to cut my post ShinChuck, I did in fact contribute. Suck it up already!!! Go read the rest instead of being sidetracked by your insecurities lmao Have anything constructive to say? Nope didn't think so *facepalm*
    You contributed, he contributed, why you gotta try to make yourself feel so special on the internet?
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