Soldiery 110 weapons

[Numenor1379]

I am pretty sure it's SS+Crit on HA is still technically better according to those threads.

Only because the HA Staff has more WD and INT than the i110 weapons do. If people were given the chance to swap the CRIT stat for DET people would do it in a second.

[Uninstall]

Only because the HA Staff has more WD and INT than the i110 weapons do. If people were given the chance to swap the CRIT stat for DET people would do it in a second.

No they wouldn't.

[Numenor1379]

No they wouldn't.

Then go find current posts saying that CRIT + SSPD is better than DET + SSPD and prove it. As I'm pretty sure you're out of date on your info.

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Then go find current posts saying that CRIT + SSPD is better than DET + SSPD and prove it. As I'm pretty sure you're out of date on your info.

I've never seen any source with determination being weighted above 0.27 for BLM and crit has never been below 0.205. Not sure what kind of math you're doing that results in determination being better than crit for BLM's High Allagan weapon.

[YanderePrincess]

I've never seen any source with determination being weighted above 0.27 for BLM and crit has never been below 0.205. Not sure what kind of math you're doing that results in determination being better than crit for BLM's High Allagan weapon.

I don't know why you're pulling those numbers out specifically, but regarding DET+SS being superior to Crit + SS.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2303733

Since, according to that post, 31 det + 44 SS is superior to 44 Crit + 31 SS, it's pretty clear that 32 Det + 46 SS is superior to 32 Crit + 46 SS. Thus, it would be preferable for HA to have Det in place of Crit, if we had a choice in the matter (which we don't).

And I know you saw the recent stat weights Puro posted, you posted on that same page of the thread. While no, he didn't weight them above .27 and below .205, det was a good .04 above crit in weight, which means if you were able to choose between 32 Det and 32 Crit with no other differences, the 32 Det would win.

[ChaozK]

That only applies to novus though, since normally a piece of gear would give you less points in determination than it would give you in speed or crit. To put it in numbers, you get 0.419 more accuracy/crit/speed, than you get determination, making crit actually more valuable than det. Its more a special trait of novus that it weights det the same as the other stats, each costing one meld.

Assuming we wouldnt talk about novus, an 110 weapon would have 31 det/31 SS or 44 crit/31 SS, in which case the crit weapon would be slightly superior.

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Your entire post is irrelevant because you cannot have 32 det while maintaining 46 spell speed on the High Allagan. The current stat on the HA Staff is as ideal as it can get for us and I am simply disagreeing with "It would also be desirable for HA Staff to have det instead of crit, but we don't get a choice on that. lol" I just cannot see 32 crit ever losing to 23 determination.

[Numenor1379]

Your entire post is irrelevant because you cannot have 32 det while maintaining 46 spell speed on the High Allagan. The current stat on the HA Staff is as ideal as it can get for us and I am simply disagreeing with "It would also be desirable for HA Staff to have det instead of crit, but we don't get a choice on that. lol" I just cannot see 32 crit ever losing to 23 determination.

My statement was supposed to be understood in the context of having the same value of DET as you have CRIT. Of course if you drop the DET as usually happens then CRIT wins. I was remarking that if you could keep the same stat numbers then a DET HA Staff would be preferred.

[YanderePrincess]

Your entire post is irrelevant because you cannot have 32 det while maintaining 46 spell speed on the High Allagan. The current stat on the HA Staff is as ideal as it can get for us and I am simply disagreeing with "It would also be desirable for HA Staff to have det instead of crit, but we don't get a choice on that. lol" I just cannot see 32 crit ever losing to 23 determination.

My entire post is irrelevant when I show that DET > Crit despite you arguing Crit > Det?

Also, my hypothetical situation I stated was, very clearly, if we could make the choice the same as we can on Novus, we would rather have DET+SS than the CRIT+SS that's on HA. You're the one making asinine, irrelevant changes to what was said to try and prove you're right.