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    Makototoki's Avatar
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    Makoto Ishutoki
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    Soldiery 110 weapons

    I currently have a UAT to use for a weapon and was wandering among these classes which one would benefit more from it. If i really didn't wanna do the animus/novus grind: BLM,DRG or SMN all of these classes are i91.
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    Yukairi Ran
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    smn>drg>>>blm
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    I have not yet looked at stats on smn and drg but can tell you the blm weapon is great. Hits harder but i have lost spell speed so use food now.
    Accuracy from what i recall is rather high as well, Novus d'ont worry about it is not leaps ahead of soldiery weapon
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    SMN stats are just great for Soldiery wep. CRIT and DET, just like a dream!
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Get it for the job you enjoy the most. I would say DRG or BLM, but those are the DPS jobs out of the ones you listed that I have. SMN is next on my list though.

    Which would benefit the most from the stats you would gain? Hands down the liberator is the best right now for DRG. I was perusing the rotation reborn thread and it's getting a lot of love.

    Just my 2g

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    Aurelle Delacroix
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    Well, considering the BiS for BLM is the Laeventinn (not including T9 drops) than I would shoot to get that. If you have anything like my luck (where no BLM weapons ever drop from T5, Levi, etc) than getting the UAT i110 weapon is the way to go. Especially if the animus/novus grind isn't something you want to do. I second SCH and only use my SMN if my FC needs an extra rez user so I can't be much help there. And my DRG is only level 34 soooo yah. Biased opinion ahoy!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelle_Delacroix View Post
    Well, considering the BiS for BLM is the Laeventinn (not including T9 drops) than I would shoot to get that. If you have anything like my luck (where no BLM weapons ever drop from T5, Levi, etc) than getting the UAT i110 weapon is the way to go. Especially if the animus/novus grind isn't something you want to do. I second SCH and only use my SMN if my FC needs an extra rez user so I can't be much help there. And my DRG is only level 34 soooo yah. Biased opinion ahoy!!!
    Laeventinn and Novus have the same main stats, on that basis neither is any better than the other. However a Novus with maxed SSPD and DET (or perhaps also PIE as well) will give better dps. I would rank the Novus above the Laeventinn if it is properly upgraded.
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Laeventinn and Novus have the same main stats, on that basis neither is any better than the other. However a Novus with maxed SSPD and DET (or perhaps also PIE as well) will give better dps. I would rank the Novus above the Laeventinn if it is properly upgraded.
    Precisely. Novus weapons break the rules when it comes to itemization costs. Normally Determination is about 40-50% more expensive point for point than crit, acc, or SS. On the Novus, however, 1 point of Determination is worth 1 point of the others, though the maximum you can apply is 31.

    Ex: Glanzfaust is 44 accuracy, 22 determination. A Novus could have 44 accuracy, 31 determination (though most wouldn't put so much into accuracy, spreading most into crit/det.) Still, assuming the same main/sub for secondary stats, the Novus just gets more.
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    Last edited by Powercow; 08-06-2014 at 11:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Laeventinn and Novus have the same main stats, on that basis neither is any better than the other. However a Novus with maxed SSPD and DET (or perhaps also PIE as well) will give better dps. I would rank the Novus above the Laeventinn if it is properly upgraded.
    excuse me but which part of BURST ALPHA DD aka BLM needs DET aka SUSTAINED damage? which part of BURST = CRIT tat u didn't make it for ur novus? BLM novus is best geared like HA staff SPS CRIT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    excuse me but which part of BURST ALPHA DD aka BLM needs DET aka SUSTAINED damage? which part of BURST = CRIT tat u didn't make it for ur novus? BLM novus is best geared like HA staff SPS CRIT!
    You might want to go check the BLM threads on this page as there's been a LOT of discussion on this. The best stats for BLM dps are INT > DET > SSPD > CRIT, in that order. You don't want the Novus to be ACC/SSPD as that'd be the Laevateinn, and frankly really pointless if you're going for improved damage.

    BLMs do have good burst ability, but it is in no way determined by our CRIT stat. Rather it's governed by having procs ready to be used quickly (along with Swiftcast/Convert/ethers/etc...). Sustained damage is a lot more useful to BLMs than a 0.1% increase in crit chances. The only reason the HA Staff is top dog is it's WD and INT stats. Putting SSPD and DET on the Novus is the best combination you can get (and if you want 251 PIE all the time, using the Novus stats for it isn't a bad idea either).
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