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  1. #31
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I believe the "shunners of the idea" are probably more understanding of the mechanics than you seem to be. Only SCoB:T4 *might* be tough to carry, but you forgot (or neglected to mention) a crucial thing; solo tank is a thing. Many groups of capable of clearing it with 2 tank, 4 dps, 2 healers. Remove 1 tank for carry and you can still win everything.

    There should be a lockout removal. However, it should be on Savage Coil only.

    That being said;

    Do you realize people are going to sell T6-9 in less than 1 month once 2.4?

    Also, WHO CARES.
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  2. #32
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Do you realize people are going to sell T6-9 in less than 1 month once 2.4?

    Also, WHO CARES.
    Less than a month is way too long. You mean less than 1 hour after patch hits. What do you mean, "who cares"? It's like the people who support removing weekly lockouts don't understand why they are there in the first place. I'm asking you. Do you understand why there are weekly lockouts in the first place?

    There should be a lockout removal. However, it should be on Savage Coil only.
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  3. #33
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    Blackheart Kasuragi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Do you realize people are going to sell T6-9 in less than 1 month once 2.4?

    Also, WHO CARES.
    People sell anything they can in this game, it's up to others to justify if it's worth the gil or not.

    And about the "WHO CARES." comment, well, i'm positive alot of people are saying the same thing about your posts as well, you'll have to come up with a better...um..."debate" then that, It just makes you look childish.
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Remove the lockout, keep the loot lockout.
    This except that you get lootlocked as soon as boss dies, no matter if you win anything or not.
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  5. #35
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Less than a month is way too long. You mean less than 1 hour after patch hits. What do you mean, "who cares"? It's like the people who support removing weekly lockouts don't understand why they are there in the first place. I'm asking you. Do you understand why there are weekly lockouts in the first place?
    I understand I want to play with my friends. I understand if one my friend ask me "wanna clear T6 together?" I can tell him "Yeah, sure, let me help ya". I understand that I want to log in during the weekend look at PF without feeling depressed because "Oh.. cannot join that. A shame, I would have liked to try T7 as a SMN once. but lockout!." I understand some people are willing to feed on any bullshit SE gives them, even if the game turns into a 8-men game.

    If the prices to pay is to have people sell T6-9 to casual then let them have, who gives a shiet.
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  6. #36
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    Sigmakan Kaph
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    Decouple Savage mode from the normal mode and I'll be happy.
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  7. #37
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    Tom Laeplight
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    Jesus christ have some patience and just wait a month or two for 2.4 when the lockout will be removed.
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  8. #38
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Removing lock-outs in the content's prime creates more problems than it solves. If you can't find a group to your play style and time, then you will simply have to wait till the next tier of raids come out. Imagine if one group in your FC beats it, then they decide to carry everyone else in it to get a win. High Allagan weapons would decrease in it's valued reward, and difficulty in raids in general would decrease immensely.

    Most MMO's use lock outs for raids, and there is a reason.
    The weapons would not decrease in it's valued it would cost people 5-10+m to get the wep. Becuase people would start selling the runs which people are already doing now.
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  9. #39
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    You know it would be cool if they gradually eased the lockout until it is totally unlocked. If done right it could maintain the exclusivity of the gear initially. My FC as an example only has a few hours each week to practice fights as a group where most of the cutting edge raiders are able to practice a few hours several times each week, so we would still be behind the curve as we would have to still practice said content.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Remove the lockout, keep the loot lockout.
    It does not resolve the issue of people getting carried through it. Its the hardest content in the game, you should learn it and beat it that way.
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