Vote for a EU server in EU

[Yshnal]

@silentwindfr: It's more than just those 20-60ms (as if having 60ms less couldn't help many people). It's connection stability too. If your packets have to travel longer, it also means that you have more chances that something might go wrong with them on their way to/from the server. And then you have your lag spikes and your disconnections, or even small delay increases that can be enough to get you (or others) killed. That's why tunneling software helps some people, as they give them optimal routing with less chances to get errors.

For the rest of what you said, read my previous post.

[abzoluut]

I vote yes. Like many my current connection does not hurt my game experience/gameplay.

What I do like to point out is that 99% of us are used to 100 ms + for this game now. I bet that if we suddenly get to experience 60ms, everyone will say how bad the servers used to be. The fact that it's playable now does not mean we're getting the bang for our buck.

I wonder what ms Japanese players (living in Japan) play with. Maybe they too have 100 + ms? Might be SE's server choice in that case.

[Etupa]

Japanese network is really good, less than 30ms is very common for FFXIV players there. I will update later with screenshots of their ping cmd.

Edit : updated on first page. 10ms for this happy Japanese player.

[Millerna]

So, because of a minority, the whole EU population has to be screwed to move away from their own servers? So those are not really EU servers after all, right? Not to mention that nowhere in-game does it say "hey, be aware that these EU servers are not placed in the EU", so many outsiders (besides an informed minority that visits the forums and whatnot) are choosing these based on other preferences aside from the ping that they might have.

We don't really know whether the non-EU players really are a minority though, or if they are, by how much.. If there's 1000 people who have characters on Phoenix for example that are non-EU, compared to say 3000 people who are from the EU, the non-EU might be a minority, but forcing 1000 people to a different datacenter is definitely not good publicity. Only Square has those numbers though, so only they can make the final decision.

The EU tag is basically meant to indicate that those servers have most players online during EU prime time, not that those servers are in the EU. They have said that multiple times. I agree that it's confusing though, especially for new players who will think those servers are located in the EU, as, like you said, there's no indication they wouldn't be.

Note that I'm not against EU servers physically being in the EU, but I don't think all of a sudden moving the current datacenter is a good idea, especially after the game's been out for almost a year and communities have been built already.

[Aura_Shurifon]

Just for information, even Yoshida died to Titan HM when he played with lag in Australia (and was surprised)
Lag is caused by base latency (ping) and overcrowed route on network (thanks cogent for low QoS for gamers)
Having a server in europe would help in both case, the latter being the biggest problem (lag spike).
And if you don't want to switch server (like me) they should move current server to europe, not create new one.

EDIT : For those who said that it's bad for non-EU that play on server tagged EU to move server, the problem is the same for us right now. They were tagged as EU, they choose knowing that, as we chose that hoping it would be better for us...

[AiChyan]

Yes please SE, Please :c

[Surian]

100 ms isnt bad.

We still have a better connection due to our oceanic line (and it's hub close-by) than most americans have if they have to connect from the other side of the country. Fewer steps and switches to make opposed to the endless bouncing around till it finally arives at the server.

I feel this isnt needed at all. Servers are pretty full, sure, but i wouldnt want to leave to go to a "EU" server, which i would then be forced to do due to people complaining about me having 100ms of latency when they do not.

Why not design fights around having 100ms of latency? There, i just fixed the entire problem people have. Add 100ms to skills going off from enemies and nothing is the matter at all.

[Assirra]

exept the game was like this from the start, and it was said here that some american player have worse connection than european... seriously it's only a rants for make it special when after all the population of the europe are not enough for worth the budget needed for a datacenter, worst at some hours the server will be completly empty. finally, if i had wanted another game where people of the world play only with the one close to them... i will not play FF14. they simply want to strip more FF14 of it international way for? a potential better latency of 20-60ms...

seriously, what do you prefer, they add another datacenter, with the risk to increase the monthly fee or they simply improve more what we have and give us more content. personally i will go with more content!

Yea some american's got worse connection, however that is their ISP. What i heard about some American ISP's is really sad but that has nothing to do with SE whatsoever.
You must be SE's accountant to know all this about money right? I mean, clearly you know how much that the total EU makes for SE.
ALso, that 20-60ms is a huge difference in a game that is designed around dodging stuff nonstop. Try to stop running and cast fast after that because your tank is dying and he needs his heal. Suddenly your heal stops because of those 20-60ms the server thinks you are still running. Suddenly dead tank.
Nobody saids they want to strip of the "international". They just want the same service that others get, not worse. The people that want still stay on american server but at least here is a CHOICE.
And no, they won't increase monthly costs, that is absurd to think that and its obvious you have zero arguments and are trying to make some of your own.

[Edli]

Edit : updated on first page. 10ms for this happy Japanese player.

No wonder devs don't care. They test content on Japan and think it's good enough.

[AiChyan]

after all the population of the europe are not enough for worth the budget needed for a datacenter

EU servers are supposed to serve European, Middle Eastern and North African players. Thats by no means "not enough".