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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    If you do this, then you are violating the TOS by abusing the report abuse function,

    Incorrect. By definition of the TOS, admitting to use the parser in and of itself is a reportable offense. Reporting the person who's violating the TOS is a valid action regardless of context or intent.


    If you or anyone else admits to Parsing and it's in a traceable log somewhere, and it gets reported, you're/they're the one the GM will go after, not the person obligated by the TOS to report such things.

    It's already happened on this board. Be smart, don't tempt fate.

    Also, we will be getting parsing meters once addons come out, recall yoshi saying that once addons come out, the ability for them to display more information is fine.
    You recall in error. Yoshida explicitly stated he will not be adding a client parser because he does not want it to lead to discriminatory actions against players. However, what he has stated is that he would make beginner-training style quests that will teach players to be mindful of their DPS and may, as a objective for said quest, require you to maintain or reach a certain DPS marker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    PS4 doesnt sustain 60 FPS all the time, while my PC can at max settings at a resolution of 2560x1080, thats not on par at all by definition of the word. Ps4 is equivalent to a mid end PC of similar value, thats the term you were looking for in that situation.
    PS4 holds 60fps most of the time, and I used the term 'pretty much on par' to describe it. That really doesn't seem as far fetched as someone 'pitying' someone for playing on the PS4 to me.
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    The only real gripe I have about this game is the reliance on others to progress, all that other stuff you mentioned op really isn't an issue. Seems silly complaining about that aspect of the game considering it's an mmo but there is a great deal of this game that's addictive and portions of it that ain't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    PS4 holds 60fps most of the time, and I used the term 'pretty much on par' to describe it. That really doesn't seem as far fetched as someone 'pitying' someone for playing on the PS4 to me.
    They have already said that some stuff, like hotbar setups can't be saved to gear sets, because of the memory limitations of not only the ps3, but also the ps4, so graphics wise the ps4 can keep up with a lot of pcs, it will still continue to hold certain aspects of the game back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    They have already said that some stuff, like hotbar setups can't be saved to gear sets, because of the memory limitations of not only the ps3, but also the ps4, so graphics wise the ps4 can keep up with a lot of pcs, it will still continue to hold certain aspects of the game back.
    Link please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Incorrect. By definition of the TOS, admitting to use the parser in and of itself is a reportable offense. Reporting the person who's violating the TOS is a valid action regardless of context or intent.

    You recall in error. Yoshida explicitly stated he will not be adding a client parser because he does not want it to lead to discriminatory actions against players. However, what he has stated is that he would make beginner-training style quests that will teach players to be mindful of their DPS and may, as a objective for said quest, require you to maintain or reach a certain DPS marker.
    wrong there with parsers, they wont add a official parsers, i.e one SE develop themselves, but addons will be developed by other sources like even the playerbase, its these ones that are fine, and they can develop addons that will display more information, you are just reading it wrong, and again your wrong about the TOS, you need a better reason then the person I quoted did.

    Even blizzard said the exact same statement regarding dps meters for WOW, they wont develop ones officially, but have no issue if the playerbase develops it.
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    Last edited by raelgun; 08-04-2014 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    PS4 holds 60fps most of the time, and I used the term 'pretty much on par' to describe it. That really doesn't seem as far fetched as someone 'pitying' someone for playing on the PS4 to me.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n72MTWMPuCg

    heres some testing for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Link please.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...36#post2269436
    You should learn to use the search function better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...36#post2269436
    You should learn to use the search function better.
    I would like to point out that the memory limitations are sony's side not the PS4, it directly states its based on the backup service (online cloud storage used by the PS+ service for saved data backups by the sounds of it) and not the PS4 itself which will probably in time as games and the SOE service evolve to match will be expanded on.

    EDIT: It even states locally there is no problem with data storage

    "Both gear set information and hotbar information is saved locally on hard drives for PC and PS3/4. When saving information locally, it’s possible to save a larger amount of information than when saving on the server, but for the PS3/4 there are limitations on the size of saved files due to the file backup service and other related aspects."
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    Last edited by Yurimi; 08-04-2014 at 01:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    wrong there with parsers, they wont add a official parsers, i.e one SE develop themselves, but addons will be developed by other sources like even the playerbase, its these ones that are fine, and they can develop addons that will display more information, you are just reading it wrong, and again your wrong about the TOS, you need a better reason then the person I quoted did.

    Even blizzard said the exact same statement regarding dps meters for WOW, they wont develop ones officially, but have no issue if the playerbase develops it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WXYg-S05U#t=360


    Basically, you're not supposed to have ANY 3'rd party program. Their ability to police it, however, relies upon the user admitting guilt, be it in game, or in these forums. So, it's more like you can use parsers, you just can't imply that you do in chat or forums.

    I do remember Yoshi stating that even though the use of add-ons would be permitted at some point, it would have to be addons from SE and that dps meters/parsers would not be allowed at all. No quote on that, but if someone can find it, that would be awesome.

    As for OP, I agree with most of your statements, however if you're having that much trouble keeping up/beating a bard as a monk, then this game simply isn't for you.
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