Because of Hunts~~

[Edli]

Why would you want to do dungeons, though?

Dungeons can be fun when they're challenging. Although that hasn't been the case for a long time now. They're just a drag now.

Hunts are no better though. All I do is run to some place, throw medica 5 times, sit and wait for some other one to spawn and repeat. For hours. What's so fun about that?

[NyneAlexander]

Again, your reason for doing the fight should be because you enjoy it...

Yep. In a perfect world, we'd all do the fight 1000's of times daily just because they're so much fun.

Wake up. The OP complained about party finder being dead. Even if we all extremely enjoyed every primal fight and no one was ever interested in drops, party finder would still be empty. In order to get people to REPEATEDLY do these fights, there has to be more incentive other than "well you should just enjoy the fight."

This is 2014. The great chase for pixels has been around since MMO's began years ago. You should know this by now. And if you can't accept that the reason people do things is ALSO for drops, then its time to move on to something else.

Not to mention, a lot of whats referred to in this thread is old content. I did it because I enjoyed it dozens of times... months ago. I might do it once or twice cause I'm bored, but certainly not enough to constitute filling a party finder on a daily basis w/o some sort of reward.

[Aegis]

Yep. In a perfect world, we'd all do the fight 1000's of times daily just because they're so much fun.

Wake up. The OP complained about party finder being dead. Even if we all extremely enjoyed every primal fight and no one was ever interested in drops, party finder would still be empty. In order to get people to REPEATEDLY do these fights, there has to be more incentive other than "well you should just enjoy the fight."

This is 2014. The great chase for pixels has been around since MMO's began years ago. You should know this by now. And if you can't accept that the reason people do things is ALSO for drops, then its time to move on to something else.

Actually I quite like the way the game is right now. Maybe you should move on?

[Markas]

Am I the only one who isn't afflicted by a "dead" party finder? Every time I queue, unless I'm on DPS of course, I usually enter within 5 minutes. Unless its super late at night, or early depending on how you look at it, the PF is still going strong.

[Yukiko]

Can you rember the statement of Yoshi-P where he said why CT2 does not have Sand of Time yet?
They explained to add them later after monitoring...

Some days later they added hunts and nearly the instant most maxed their gear with sand.

[IgnisFatuus]

I quit the game for now, because hunts made all the shit I was after useless, including the novus grind. maybe they'll handle 2.4 better.

[NyneAlexander]

Actually I quite like the way the game is right now. Maybe you should move on?

Why should I move on? I quite like the game too. I was just replying to your "you should do the fight cause you love it" comment. I do participate in the content I enjoy. I was explaining why you aren't going to see people doing old content without some sort of incentive. Which has basically been the case in every mmo ever.

[Aegis]

Why should I move on? I quite like the game too. I was just replying to your "you should do the fight cause you love it" comment. I do participate in the content I enjoy. I was explaining why you aren't going to see people doing old content without some sort of incentive. Which has basically been the case in every mmo ever.

A lot of us are players from XI where there were numerous ways to get equivalent gear for many years and, until relatively recently, old content was still popular. So, we don't take it as some kind of truism that old content must get outdated and unpopular.

That was a game that relied on this kind of open-world, group and community-oriented content. Which is why some of us like it.

[Eekiki]

I've done a 180 on hunts. I hated them at first.

But New & Shiny wore off, and folks at least on Leviathan have organized a semi-decent community around hunting (with linkshells and all). So unless you're a weirdo that doesn't like to interact with other players in this multiplayer online game, they're quite enjoyable now.

Most of the time...

But it seems to me that many of the people who are still complaining about hunts are people who are simply mad that they can't passively get involved in the activity. They need to talk to people and ask for invites and communicate with others. That's scary scary stuff for nerdly nerds.

[NyneAlexander]

A lot of us are players from XI where there were numerous ways to get equivalent gear for many years and, until relatively recently, old content was still popular. So, we don't take it as some kind of truism that old content must get outdated and unpopular.

That was a game that relied on this kind of open-world, group and community-oriented content. Which is why some of us like it.

My original in-game surname was "Alexander" because I played FFXI on the alexander server from NA release until 2008. Very familiar with old content. Very familiar with horizontal progression. The difference is, in FFXIV - a game with vertical progression, is that old content becomes outdated very quickly. Its like comparing apples to oranges. Its not some kind of truism. It just is what it is.