Of PvP & Protect Spell

[Logo]

It's logical that if there is no Def/Mdef, then there is no function of protect, so while i haven't tested it, no one has said otherwise until today

That's my train of thought anyway, I still use protect anyway so i don't have my stoneskin glory slashed instantly, but thats all i use it for

You're missing the point, Test before spreading information.
That is what is logical.

[CeveArthu]

You're missing the point, Test before spreading information.
That is what is logical.

I know what you mean mate, but i was just repeating what has been said since i started pvping (like 4 months ago probably), so its not just me you need to tell this too :P

Going to try and get a party to test it out now in any case

[Atreus]

Crunch all the numbers you want, there's still no reason NOT to Protect.

Even if it didn't work to reduce damage, it's still be a filler buff that stops something more important from being dispelled (One Ilm and Glory Slash say hi).

[CeveArthu]

Crunch all the numbers you want, there's still no reason NOT to Protect.

Even if it didn't work to reduce damage, it's still be a filler buff that stops something more important from being dispelled (One Ilm and Glory Slash say hi).

Yep, i always protect over the top of my stoneskin just to be sure

Didn't manage to get 8 people to test it, people are lazy today

[CeveArthu]

I have nearly double def/mdef. Yet I take the same damage from everything. Just because it is displayed, does not mean it is in effect.

This is a very interesting thought

[Slib]

When it comes to PvP, damage reduction and +% damage is based on Morale. Protect is useless when it comes to taking damage in PvP. It doesn't lower the damage taken at all in PvP since Defense and Magic Defense do not work in PvP. I do the same damage to paladins with sword oath on as I do to everyone else, and they have the most defense and magic defense in the game, this proves the fact that it doesn't work in PvP.

That being said, Protect is still useful in PvP. People have abilities that dispel your buffs, so Protect acts as a blanket for the more important buffs, such as Regen and Galvanize.

[Gor]

When it comes to PvP, damage reduction and +% damage is based on Morale. Protect is useless when it comes to taking damage in PvP. It doesn't lower the damage taken at all in PvP since Defense and Magic Defense do not work in PvP. I do the same damage to paladins with sword oath on as I do to everyone else, and they have the most defense and magic defense in the game, this proves the fact that it doesn't work in PvP.

That being said, Protect is still useful in PvP. People have abilities that dispel your buffs, so Protect acts as a blanket for the more important buffs, such as Regen and Galvanize.

where is the resource that says this? because if that's the case that means Eos Fey Covenent doesn't work either.

[Logo]

When it comes to PvP, damage reduction and +% damage is based on Morale. Protect is useless when it comes to taking damage in PvP. It doesn't lower the damage taken at all in PvP since Defense and Magic Defense do not work in PvP. I do the same damage to paladins with sword oath on as I do to everyone else, and they have the most defense and magic defense in the game, this proves the fact that it doesn't work in PvP.

That being said, Protect is still useful in PvP. People have abilities that dispel your buffs, so Protect acts as a blanket for the more important buffs, such as Regen and Galvanize.

This logic would dictate that Det would have no use also, since morale dictates damage dealt.
Yet PVP gear is littered with it.

[Slib]

Here is a little explanation of it. While it is not straight from Square Enix, it is written on a wiki...

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Morale

"Morale is an attribute that affects the amount of damage you take from enemy players and the amount of damage you deal to enemy players in PvP. The attribute only comes into play in level 50 PvP matches, where it replaces Defense and Magic Defense in influencing the damage you receive."

[Slib]

Logo, I can't say if determination affects us in PvP at all, as I have not tested that directly, but I can promise you that Defense and Magic Defense do not work in PvP.