Of PvP & Protect Spell

[Divinemight]

Update on this issue. It is confirmed that defense values does not work in the Frontline is working as intended:

こんばんは。

フロントラインでは、ウルヴズジェイル同様に物理防御力／魔法防御力は無効にしており、
その前提でバトルのバランスも調整しています。

そのためフォーサイトやプロテスのような物理防御力をのばすアクションも効果はありません。

The god damn morale has ruined a lot of thing. They are balance the Frontline based on the framework of Wolf Den where defense values doesnt work because of morale. Protect, Foresight, and Fey Covenant doesnt work because of the stupid Morale?

[Gor]

Update on this issue. It is confirmed that defense values does not work in the Frontline is working as intended:



The god damn morale has ruined a lot of thing. They are balance the Frontline based on the framework of Wolf Den where defense values doesnt work because of morale. Protect, Foresight, and Fey Covenant doesnt work because of the stupid Morale?

Lame. Then I retract my earlier statement ... its still useful tho for buff munchers and I'll still cast it on my party members. Still no reason not to tho. Altho it does kind of suck, players have learned to adapt to the minus morale environment even if the Protect icon is just a placebo

[Buff_Archer]

I can name for sure one situation in which Protect doesn't work in Frontlines- when people can't wait 1 damn second longer for it to finish casting on them before they do Mount and charge off to die again solo. I'm getting sick of dismounting two or three times in a row for players who res behind me maybe 10 seconds behind each other, and as soon as they're up I'll cast Prot...->Mount! they're gone. Another one rises so I get off my mount to cast Protec.... ->Mount! they're off just before it finished, so they can get back to the scene of the battle where their teammates are dead or dying and somehow single-handedly turn the tide. I'm not referring to Alliance members since I can't cast Protect on them and they would know that.

One follow-up (before anyone else responds if I can type this fast enough)- if Protect really doesn't work they should have done a better job communicating that so none of us are wasting our time with it.

[Buff_Archer]

They need to tell us ASAP which skills have no use in Frontlines and which don't indicate as such in their tool tips so we don't waste our time using them. And if there's no use for Protect, that's one cross-class skill wasted on my Scholar in Frontlines and I could swap in another. It sounds like galvanize would still work, and same with stoneskin, based on the above, but they need to make the rules absolutely clear because without them we can't formulate the best strategies vs. those who happen to know. As a console user, crossbar space on our primary and secondary backup crossbars is at a premium- I already have macros to swap out PVP vs PVE crossbar loadouts- and if using something as fundamental as an action or pet action is meaningless I might as well put a situational macro or something in its place. If they could simply post a list for now that would be something.

[Gor]

They need to tell us ASAP which skills have no use in Frontlines and which don't indicate as such in their tool tips so we don't waste our time using them.

This has already been requested on the REQUEST LIST: Short Term and Long Term PvP thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Long-Term-PvP . Whether SE actually implements it or not, is up to them. Keep your fingers crossed.

Adjustments to PvP equipment to be usable. More specifically, giving Morale some sort of purpose. Also, implement a better way to display which stats are currently disabled for users to easily see. One possible suggestion - Display all disabled stats in Frontlines in red on the character stat windows, with a note in their mouseover tooltips explaining that they are disabled. (Thanks to Vandril for idea)

[Sen_Terrechant]

Protect DOES WORK in Frontlines.

[Gor]

Protect DOES WORK in Frontlines.

Did you read anything in this thread? I highly doubt an official SE mod would lie or provide false information about Protect being disabled in FL

[Potatoes]

y'all had a 5 page thread about something that's in game and in your stat menu at all times

[SeraviEdalborez]

y'all had a 5 page thread about something that's in game and in your stat menu at all times

Nobody questions that Morale works like that in 50 cap. What seems to be news is that defense doesn't work at all.

[Potatoes]

Nobody questions that Morale works like that in 50 cap. What seems to be news is that defense doesn't work at all.

you're right