Ninja: Walk in shadow.

[Exstal]

It's not outside the realm of possibility for the secondary class to be Thaumaturge or even Arcanist. There is precedent with Paladin and Conjurer.

If SE followed the model of a job's secondary being in a different city-state, assuming the Rogue is in Limsa that would point to Thaumaturge. However that was likely a design element meant to encourage exploration, so is possible SE might break away from that trend as well.

That's not right though. Paladin could cast low level white magic in other games. Ninja and Thief could not cast Black Magic.

EDIT: I was wrong. Ninja could use low level Black Magic. THE TABLE IS OPEN TO ANYTHING

[YanderePrincess]

It's not outside the realm of possibility for the secondary class to be Thaumaturge or even Arcanist. There is precedent with Paladin and Conjurer.

If SE followed the model of a job's secondary being in a different city-state, assuming the Rogue is in Limsa that would point to Thaumaturge. However that was likely a design element meant to encourage exploration, so is possible SE might break away from that trend as well.

Thm, maybe, but ACN is highly unlikely. Also, Lancer and Pugilist are in Gridania and Ul'dah respectively, so still fits the city-state thing.

Seriously, though, Arcanist makes absolutely no sense as a secondary for Ninja. Thm makes a little sense, but I can't think of anything THM would give as a cross-class that would be even remotely useful for a ninja. Even swiftcast for Mudras doesn't seem useful when you need multiple mudras to do one ninjutsu.

[Rex]

Didn't Yoshi-P at E3 announce that Ninja would be focusing on DEX as their primary stat? Because I remember people saying "but DEX is ranged..."

Also, hand signs are pretty quick...I assume they can be done on the go...so maybe fights with a lot of movement won't be an issue like you point out at the end of your OP.

Lastly, we definitely know Ninja will have a poison ability since in the video there's a "poison" animation, and Yoshi-P said at E3 that there's an ability that puts poison on your blades. I think that's pretty cool. Then everything you hit gets poisoned.

[Rex]

While many of are still assuming there will be a class needed to unlock, which based on videos it has similar movements to pugilist and dragoon.
However has it not been said that Rogue is a completely new class of itself and Ninja will be the job so if that be the case pugilist or other classes would not be needed, maybe only for cross class abilities.
I actually think the class will have attacks that cause bleeding and other dot

You're forgetting that every Job requires lv30 in one class (in this case, Rogue) and lv15 in another class (most likely pugilist or lancer), which is also one of the two classes they'll get cross-class abilities from.

Not to mention Yoshi-P Himself said "Rogue is the class, Ninja is the job."

Plus it's just extremely obvious that Rogue is the "class" to the Ninja "job."

[Exstal]

Not to mention Yoshi-P Himself said "Rogue is the class, Ninja is the job."

Plus it's just extremely obvious that Rogue is the "class" to the Ninja "job."

Yes, just like how Pugilist is the "class" to the Monk "job", but you still need Lancer at 15 to unlock Monk.

[YanderePrincess]

Didn't Yoshi-P at E3 announce that Ninja would be focusing on DEX as their primary stat? Because I remember people saying "but DEX is ranged..."

No, at E3, Yoshi recommended saving your melee DPS gear for ninja, which implies STR. It doesn't rule out DEX since most left-side melee DPS gear is also BRD gear, but melee DPS accessories are mostly str-only, with only a few pieces that had both.

People have just been assuming Rogue/Ninja will be DEX based because Rogues are dex based in a lot of games (though even there, they're often not exclusively dex based, such as in D&D which FF was based on to begin with).

[dday3six]

Thm, maybe, but ACN is highly unlikely. Also, Lancer and Pugilist are in Gridania and Ul'dah respectively, so still fits the city-state thing.

Seriously, though, Arcanist makes absolutely no sense as a secondary for Ninja. Thm makes a little sense, but I can't think of anything THM would give as a cross-class that would be even remotely useful for a ninja. Even swiftcast for Mudras doesn't seem useful when you need multiple mudras to do one ninjutsu.

I threw Arcanist in there because it is possible that skills like Miasma or Bio could become cross class even if they aren't today. Those skills actually make a lot of sense for Rogue and Ninja.

[YanderePrincess]

I threw Arcanist in there because it is possible that skills like Miasma or Bio could become cross class even if they aren't today. Those skills actually make a lot of sense for Rogue and Ninja.

Conceptually, maybe, but in practicality, they don't. They're int-based spells. Rog/Nin is a melee dps, most likely str-based, possibly dex-based. Just like if you could cross-classed Aero or Blizzard II onto a Lancer or Pugilist, you won't get any significant damage out of it.

[MartaDemireux]

It's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities for Archer to be the level 15 required class. If they in fact do go with DEX for its primary stat then Hawk's Eye, Raging Strikes, Quelling Strikes, Venomous Bite and Straight Shot all would work very well. HE/RS are flat DPS gains as are VB and SS if maintained. VB and SS are currently cross-classable but don't have a job which makes use of them.

Furthermore in at least Final Fantasy Tactics you needed level 2 in Archer to unlock Thief and then needed level 3 in Archer and level 4 in Thief unlock Ninja (as well as 2 in Geomancer but we don't have that here). This means the continuity would be there as well.

Speaking of continuity all melee DPS jobs seem to share in using MRD as a class to draw skills from. The trend could follow suit and have them use ARC and MRD as that combination is currently not utilized for a job. If it's STR based then they'll be losing out on the full benefit HE could give though.

I think the only 3 possibilities it will use for cross-classing are PGL, ARC and MRD; some combination of them.

[dday3six]

Conceptually, maybe, but in practicality, they don't. They're int-based spells. Rog/Nin is a melee dps, most likely str-based, possibly dex-based. Just like if you could cross-classed Aero or Blizzard II onto a Lancer or Pugilist, you won't get any significant damage out of it.

Classes/Jobs have varying INT stats, Ninja could have a higher INT stat. Cross-class skills are rarely as potent when not used by there originating disciple. Normally skills are modified by traits, but just overall less damage could function similarly. Furthermore, we don't rightly know if Ninja wouldn't be a step toward hybrid jobs which draw their damage output from not only attack power but also magic attack power. Going only from how the game works currently is thinking in a rather limited scope, and assumes no evolution down the line.