Yo Yosh, Can you please disable the ability to teleport?

[Dagger_32]

*snip*

Ha! Look at DF and look at the dungeons now. People queue for them, fight the boss they need, don't get what they want then quit because they do not want to waste all their time. Now imagine if everyone's time was wasted by walking, so that they had even less time for dungeons, the quitters would multiply and the game quality would go way way down.

Teleporting DOES save me a great deal of time.

My game time is is generally broken down like this:

1. Queue for whatever Dungeon I need done that night.
2. Teleport to Ul'dah, make sure my equipment is repaired, update my retainers inventory/armor/venture
3. Teleport to my daily beast quests (I do not do all of these, I do the ones I find most convenient)
4. Teleport to the Central Shroud and work on my atma farming.
5. Farm the fates and keep an eye out for hunts in the area. (I may teleport to another atma area if I get bored in CS)
6. During the fates I usually queue up in DF.
7. If I am lucky run a dungeon in 40 mins.
8. If there is still time do my daily Guildhest or Low Level dungeon. (Low level dungeon is risky at this point due to the time.)
9. Continue Atma Farming.

...and there you have it. That is my general daily to-do list. It changes every now and then if my FC needs help, or I finally have enough seals for a new armor piece. Sometimes I work on crafting and sometimes I switch to CNJ and just play around. Without teleporting I would not be able to do even half of that. It would basically be:

1. Find the closest armor mender
2. Walk to dungeon and wait in queue, unable to stray to far or accomplish much else.
3. ...and you're out of time.

[ErBear]

new list

1. Takes 40mins as you say, that's enought time to walk to 2. and do 3.
4. I'm not saying take away teleports just have restriction on them, so if need be use a teleport there.
5. is tied to 4.
6. Ok... well by now you should already be in a dungeon if you queued it up, though your just trying to add things now, even still queue up again? Even still you have another 40mins do do things like 8. and 9.
7. you just did a dungeon and now doing another.

This world is tiny and doesnt take more than 15mins to run somewhere on the map. Even still not once did I say take away teleporting in this thread(only in title to catch attention). You will still have teleports so, why you fighting on restricting something you will still be able to utilize because you don't play as much as a hardcore player who might not beable to teleport all the time because they play all the time.

There is no choice or consequence in this game, let alone connection to the world. Everywhere you look you lose connection, instances, teleports, teleporting airships, instances, mob zones(where they don't chase you). The npcs talking how dangerous it is out there yet it's super easy to kill everything. This world doesn't connect with itself or to the players.

My point is, even if you couldn't do one or two things from that list a night, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN NOTICE.

[Dagger_32]

*snip*

I feel very connected to my character and the world. Maybe the problem is *gasp* you not actually PLAYING the game. It would be hard to connect to it if I never played it. As it stands now I feel very connected to my character, our accomplishments and the world. This game has got amazing lore. Perhaps you should read up on that if feeling connected to the world is your greatest concern.

Just the other day I found out my chocobo was a male! ALL of our chocobos are male? Who knew!? Details like that (and why they are all males) are what make this game awesome and can connect you to the world, it just takes more effort than perhaps pushing an arrow key until you get to your destination. (How that connects you to the world, rather than just teleporting, I will never understand.)

No one is stopping you from travelling how you choose to, so by all means do not use the teleporting system. It is that simple.

Would you like me to force you to read lore so that you feel as connected as I think you should be?

[ErBear]

1000 crap

I've played the game, I have multiple level 50's. Also, lore, really? Yoshi already broke this worlds lore that was already established soooo that breaks my immersion even further.

I'm not telling you how to play the game, you would still beable to teleport just like you are just fine, with the restrictions I want you probably wont even be effected, just like I said prior, you wouldn't even notice, so why you still fighting me?

[Dagger_32]

*snip*

LMAO! So you say you want to feel more connected to the world THEN you say the lore is all crap. So what do you even want to feel "connected" to!? HAHAHAHA, the little credibility you had is all gone.

You're right, you are not telling me how to play the game, you are telling me how I SHOULD play the game and then trying to force it on everyone. If the restrictions will not effect me, or the majority of other players, why bother? What is your point. If you have a solution (I.E. just do not teleport if you do not like it.) Then why continue your dribble? Making up excuses why EVERYONE needs to be restricted so YOU can play a certain way, instead of just playing that way is just immature and quite egotistic.

If the only way YOU can feel connected to the world is to walk from point a to point b...then walk from point a to point b. Why is that unacceptable to you?

Also feel free to link me to your multiple level 50's profile's, you know like this. I wouldn't mind checking them out during my last hour of work!

[ErBear]

street cred yo

You didn't read what I had wrote. I said yoshi already killed the lore by changing what was already established especially with the teleporting lore. Thus in result losing connect with me the player that much more, even if it's a little bit.

You do not see the bigger picture me and others are trying to paint, I'm sorry for that. Do I like walking from point a to point b all the time? NO, but sometimes things we don't like are necessary to have a grander experience.

For example: Do you like doing house hold chores? I don't, but once your done you feel good about it, especially when you see the end result. It's the same thing here, but teleporting is only a small part of the bigger picture that i want. Doing something you may not like has benefits especially if it's working towards your end goal (scientifically proven).

[Tolmos]

You do not see the bigger picture me and others are trying to paint, I'm sorry for that. Do I like walking from point a to point b all the time? NO, but sometimes things we don't like are necessary to have a grander experience.

I hate to say it, but I love the game as it is right now. If they made such a drastic change for the worse, such as removing/grossly limiting teleporting, then the "grander experience" for me would be my epic search to find a new MMO. As much as I love FF14, I would simply get time gated out of doing much more than sitting in town and using Duty Finder over and over. Open world content would be something I'd have to save for the weekends, at best, or waste my entire night just running from point A to point B.

So while I appreciate that you are trying to paint the picture of what YOU consider to be the ideal MMO experience, you're painting for me a horror show of what could have been and what I'm glad never was.

[Dagger_32]

*snip*

So we have established that:
A. You do not currently play the game
B. You do not like the lore or world.
C. You would like to implement a feature you know no one, including yourself would enjoy.
D. You believe in order to make something enjoyable it needs to be unnecessarily tedious because science.

Honestly I have no problem with household chores but if I could do them faster AND have the same result I would. Who wouldn't?

[Shadex]

Trouble is, this is all really just a moot point. Yoshi has been 100% clear that he set out to create the hyper-casual, super kiddie friendly, zero entre barrier Disney Tea Cups ride arcade game where you just plug a quarter in and are in the action 10 seconds later.

This has attracted a vast number of gamers that were specifically looking for that experience and while not every dyed in the wool FF fan was looking for that enough people were that they are not going to change it now. FFXI was not a bad game. It was an absolutely amazing game that catered to what the industry felt, back then, was an insufficient number of paying customers in the west.

So here we are, sitting in what Square gave us as the 'westernized FFXI' Easy this, handed that, two second travel, blah zero depth classes and combat. This what the western gamers have been on forums demanding of countless other titles that dared to venture into more immersive and complex designs and Square made a smart move. They transformed 14.1 into one more theme park to appease the masses.

Now the issue we have now is that there is still a portion of the player base that LIKED 11 and even many aspects of 14.1 but there simply were not enough of us to be catered to. So what choice do we have? Shake our fists at the heavens and demand change we know is never going to happen because it would upset the current arcade sect or just bide our time until a game more to our liking comes a long and we move on.

In the end it we all know it will be the latter. Just like all those desiring a more quick in and out, no fuss gaming experience left 11 in time those of us looking for the complexity and depth that made FF what it is will eventually find the shine off the apple and we will leave too. Such is the life of MMOs.

[Litre]

Can we please let this thread die? The OP doesn't play the game and likes boring stuff, okay. No reason to give this any more attention, it's already received too much.

Doubt this thread will die, these type of threads attract, all the unhappy FFXI players that just linger here.

Which makes sense, players who are happy with the game are probably busy playing, but those of us who are unhappy visit the forums more often, hoping our cries are heard.

Trouble is, this is all really just a moot point. Yoshi has been 100% clear that he set out to create the hyper-casual, super kiddie friendly, zero entre barrier Disney Tea Cups ride arcade game where you just plug a quarter in and are in the action 10 seconds later.
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So what choice do we have? Shake our fists at the heavens and demand change we know is never going to happen because it would upset the current arcade sect or just bide our time until a game more to our liking comes a long and we move on.

So yep I'm sorry, you current content players are just going to have to deal with us for a while longer. Unfortunately, as many gripes as we have with this theme park MMO, it's the best thing we have right now, so some of us whine about giving us our own server or others try "unsuccessfully" to compromise with the existing player base.


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I think the biggest thing the casual players who are happy with the game fail to realize is that, not only do non-casual players play more, but as a direct result of spending more time in a MMO, and any game for that matter, including FFXI, we are spoiled by once living a second life as you may, in a single cohesive world, we could visualize the continents, and the zones and how to travel from one place to another, and the lore behind each area, in that sense it was a living world.

But if you don't play enough, this doesn't matter to you, but right now FFXIV in my mind doesn't really exist as a single world, instead its a bunch of interspersed disconnected zones, that have no relation to each other. And worst of all I have a bare visualization of how these zones connect to each other and their position in the overall world map, yes I can check, but it hardly matters, and since it doesn't matter the world is just unengaging, and feels lifeless.

So if you only play for a couple hours a day, I guess none of this really matters, but for others who called FFXI a second home, we feel a bit homeless, we don't want to go back to FFXI, not much new there and over here it's a bit sad.