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    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    Thief (DPS, NOT ROGUE) -> Dancer (DPS/Healer hybrid)
    How many statements Yoshida must make before people can accept that THERE WILL BE NO THIEF ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    How many statements Yoshida must make before people can accept that THERE WILL BE NO THIEF ?
    Not even a notice signed by the god of your choice as a witness will prove to people that Thief will never be a thing. Heck, even I still hope to see Thief as a class/job. They can still get away with making it a ranged class using things like Chakrams and Throwing Knives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    How many statements Yoshida must make before people can accept that THERE WILL BE NO THIEF ?
    I haven't seen one statement saying "THERE WILL BE NO THIEF."

    So... one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I haven't seen one statement saying "THERE WILL BE NO THIEF."

    So... one?
    Thief will be in the game
    But they'll be called "Rogues" :B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I haven't seen one statement saying "THERE WILL BE NO THIEF."

    So... one?
    There is one.

     名称については……開発チームでも本音を言えば“シーフ”と呼びたいのです(苦笑)。でも各都市に拠点があって、クラスギルドがあるのですが、仮に地下組織でシーフとした場合、表舞台に出せず、そうなるとメインストーリー上も苦しくなります。彼らはかつてリムサ・ロミンサの港町……あ、言っちゃった(笑)……、がまだ海賊で荒れていた時代に、サンクレッドも言っていたとおり、裏で義賊的に活動していた。それがちゃんと体系化して、国にもある程度認められてギルドを持つことができた。それをずっとシーフ(盗賊)と呼び続けることは変だろうと。民衆からの尊敬の念もあり、体系化された武術として双剣士という形になった。僕らなりに考えた、今の時代のシーフを目指して作りました。
    Here's the google translation,

    I want to be called "Thief" speaking or truth in ...... development team for name (laughs). But if there are offices in each city, I have a class guild, but if you have a Thief in the underground organization if, it is not put out to center stage, Sonaruto will be painful on the main story. A time when it was rough in the pirate still Oh port city ...... of Limsa Lominsa, you've said but (laughs) ...,, as thunk Red was also said, they had been working in Gizoku at the back once. It was possible to organize properly it, have a guild recognized to some extent in the country. Be Yobitsuzukeru Thief and (thieves) all the time it would be strange. There is also a sense of respect from the people, I became a form of bi-swordsman as martial arts that have been organized. It made it to aim and thought we Nari, the Thief of age today.
    Here's the Blue Gartr forums translation,

    Truthfully, I wanted the class(*) to be called “Thief,” but the development team wouldn’t have it (laughs). You see, there are guild headquarters in each city for all of the different classes, but if we had a class called “Thief,” it would have to be some kind of underground organization since it wouldn’t make sense to just be out in the open and it would be difficult to include in the main scenario. I told them, well, Limsa Lominsa is a port town and it was once overrun with pirates (laughs)…. but as Thancred pointed out, to properly organize it, the guild would have to be recognized by the nation at least to some extent, and it would be strange if they kept calling themselves “Thieves.” Also, the dual wielding nature of rogues is a form of martial arts that has some respect among Eorzeans, so we intended Rogue to be the Thieves of today.
    * Blue Gartr put "job" here, but there is no mention of the word job in the original
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    Last edited by Exstal; 07-27-2014 at 12:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    There is one.
    I've read those translations, and what they boil down to is that no respectable city would publicly sanction having a Thieves' Guild. Which makes a lot of sense.

    Jobs don't have guilds, though. Jobs are avenues of experience that adventurers independently explore after exhausting everything that their class's guild has to teach them. If, after graduating from the well-known and respectable Rogue's Guild, an adventurer decides to undertake the tutelage of Siegfried, the infamous Thief, to learn some of the less savory abilities that the respectable Rogues left behind them (Steal, Sneak Attack, etc), they can track him down at his hideout to unlock the job.

    That's just one possible way Thief could be added to the game, that does not conflict in any way with what has already been stated.

    Well, perhaps one way: The fact that Yoshi-P was even CONSIDERING adding Thief as a Class rather than a Job indicates that he wasn't totally familiar with the fact that Thief is one of the Classic Six FF jobs: White Mage, Black Mage, Red Mage, Thief, Blackbelt (Monk), and Fighter (Warrior). White Mage, Black Mage, Monk, and Warrior are all Jobs, not Classes. If Red Mage and Thief are ever added, and are NOT added as Jobs instead of Classes, the whole Internet will explode with OCD nerdrage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Jobs don't have guilds, though. Jobs are avenues of experience that adventurers independently explore after exhausting everything that their class's guild has to teach them. If, after graduating from the well-known and respectable Rogue's Guild, an adventurer decides to undertake the tutelage of Siegfried, the infamous Thief, to learn some of the less savory abilities that the respectable Rogues left behind them (Steal, Sneak Attack, etc), they can track him down at his hideout to unlock the job.

    That's just one possible way Thief could be added to the game, that does not conflict in any way with what has already been stated.
    This. I do think that someday Thief could exist.

    Im thinking Samurai like the rest of you. I can't picture them adding Ninja without Samurai. Samurai will most likely be a tank if I had to guess.
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