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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    you want some example of impact of the game?

    - every city was cut in 2 different area because of ps3, because it was impossible to make only one area for the console.
    - the bag it's in 4 slot because the memory can't support more.
    - the name have a pretty hard setup, one more time, because ps3 can't allows more.
    - most of the space limitation come too from the ps3 limitation.
    Zones - This was a PLAYER REQUESTED REDESIGN because people disliked the 'copy paste' of 1.0, has nothing to do with PS3 - Many PC only MMOs have large cities which the majority of the city you can't even enter the buildings or are absolutely useless aside NPCs standing outside.
    Bags - FFXI, a PS2 MMORPG, has 80*4 active inventory slots currently, that means FFXIV ARR has 100 active inventory ad FFXI has 320 slots, more than ARR and it's a PS2 game. Not an issue.
    Names - This has nothing to do with consoles.
    Space limitations - Design decisions not because of the PS3/PS4.

    why do you think that the dx11 was pushed soo much back?
    Just stop. The PS3/PS4 doesn't even utilize Direct X - And many PS3 and PS4 games look really beautiful as as. Graphics aren't everything and it would have also raised the required specs when Yoshida, once again, stated himself he wants to have this game accessible to as many people as possible.

    mostly because it will be impossible to justify a soo big difference between pc and ps3 graphism...
    DX11 wasn't going to change much - Yoshida stated this himself.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 07-27-2014 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    This thread needs to be closed just like they did with that one.
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    It was specifically stated, by Yoshi, during beta/launch Q&A that certain things were designed as they are due to memory limitations imposed by ARR's PS3 release. If you go back far enough in the forum archives, you can probably find the very statements. This is not opinion, it's developer admitted fact. Nor can you compare XI to ARR anymore then you can compare ARR to ESO: their programming infrastructure is different, which makes their strengths and weaknesses different. The fact that a 10+ year old game can do something that a year old game can't happens, it's just a result of higher individual resource requirements for higher quality stuff.

    This does not mean that releasing the game on PS3 was a bad thing, and it undeniably brought in more players. It was a good move for the success of the game, but eventually dropping PS3 support and sticking to PC and PS4 might be best for the long term life. It's a purely technical issue and nothing against the players on PS3.
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    I want to enter and leave the cities seamlessly again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    You're implying SE Will ever drop PS3 support. If you look at their other MMORPG, they're still supporting the PS2. Lately it runs terribly and the content for people on other platforms has to be gimped because of dev admitted "ps2 limitations"
    They already stated they'd consider it sometime after the first expansion depending on the player numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    I want to enter and leave the cities seamlessly again.
    I miss that.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 07-27-2014 at 02:03 AM.

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    PS3 players, especially those in Japan, are subsidizing the costs of this game in a big way, only for people to turn around and treat them like crap and basically tell them not to play the game.

    Which is ironic, because if they didn't there would be no game, or at least substantially less of one.

    PC players should be thanking PS3 players for putting up with what they see as a clearly inferior experience, not trying to get rid of them and make them feel unwelcome.
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    no, stop please, you are simply going to far, most player are pc based, stop assuming ps3 version is the main version.

    about the limitation i have given, it was Yoshida himself that have answer the question of the beta tester while phase 1-2 about the limitation of the space, name and why the capitale was cut in two... feel free to flee reality, when information are given by the director and you try to ignore it it's fun.

    the ps3 have 256 mo of rams, even the lowest pc have 1go.... 4 times this, believe me when i say this hurt the game in many way.
    anyway, like said before Yoshida have stated that the ps3 will be supported until first expansion, but can't promise more of it. because they have big plan for the game and the memory limitation of the ps3 is not joke. the DX version was push back because it did take them more and more time of optimize the game on this old hardware, all of this for fullify a promise made by tanaka years ago.

    other point, Yoshida, one more time, did said that the the Full DX11 version is by far a looot better, like he said, if they use all the DX11 option, even best pc will have hard time to run it.

    ps3 will be dropped, that the smarter and the best choice for the future of FF14:ARR, if you think it will be like FF11 and the ps2, stop daydreaming!

    ps: no one have said that the player from ps3 are not welcome, we only states a fact about hardware... SE have kindly offer to pass to ps4 version for free, not need to buy the game, not need to pay a fee for transfert... nothing to pay at all exept get the new ps4. i feel it's kinda rude to yoshida and it team to ignore all the effort they have done until now to please ps3 player... it's time to grow up and understand the reality of the hardware.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 07-27-2014 at 02:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelfox View Post
    PS3 players, especially those in Japan, are subsidizing the costs of this game in a big way, only for people to turn around and treat them like crap and basically tell them not to play the game.

    Which is ironic, because if they didn't there would be no game, or at least substantially less of one.

    PC players should be thanking PS3 players for putting up with what they see as a clearly inferior experience, not trying to get rid of them and make them feel unwelcome.
    we're not telling them to not play the game. just telling them to play it on the better platforms.

    and last time I checked, everyone I play with in the game is playing on PC (and some on PS4) so I don't think the PS3 players are the majorities.
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    It's for the good of this game to drop PS3 support in order to stay competitive.


    The PS3 must be dropped! \o/
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    PS3 limitations

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    Ps3 players come and complain about lag and rendering issues....
    Ps3 players come and defend the limitations of ps3....

    Seriously?
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