atma drop rates

[Avarghaladion]

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I would be surprised if you weren't just being trolled at this point.

[YanDere]

If 99% of the community did not like something, any game company would fix it. ever heard of Customer support?

Did you try sending a mail to customer support, or even better, chatting with someone from customer support asking them to "fix" atmas? Please do it and send me a screen when you get laughed hard on your face ^^
"Plaguing the game", well you sure look like it's your first videogame ever, is that so? 90% of RPGs, especially JRPGs, have far longer farms for far smaller rewards. And please, stop saying it's a skin. Would you be on Novus now if you hadn't farmed atmas? Nope. And if atma hadn't existed, you'd just have to farm atmas, then do 9 books all with your Zenith to get Animus, because lv100 isn't someting you get with just 9 books in 2.3.
But this thread ended so long ago, when you started saying it was "unfair". You sure need some experience, I mean, a whole lot of experience.
And Avarghaladion-chan needs something to say, which I see he gravely lacks. See you in Duty Finder, if you haven't /blisted me yet

P.S.: I'm not sure what should I "deal with", I have my atma and going for animus, I'm fine with that and I'm not going to be "mad" just for a rainbow dash /img on a forum I don't follow that much :3
I'm even going to do another atma on WAR, I like that system.

[winsock]

I like it and I want it exactly as it is.

It's a pain...
you do something long and boring, to get a good weapon...

If you want an atma, you'll have to farm FATEs, and that's it.

You like it, you want to keep it... but at the end of the day find it to be painful, time consuming, and boring.

I'll assume the "time consuming" part is needed, but there is no reason SE shouldn't make an effort to alleviate the pain and boredom. It is a game after all. Completing the 9 books to upgrade to animus looks like they're going to take me much more time than atma farming, but they are substantially less boring and painful than fate grinding for 9hrs just to get a single drop.

[Theresa]

I starded atma farming and I don't think it's broken. It is BORING but not broken at all (in my opinion).

I just see people complaining because they can't get it as fast as they want.

[YanDere]

Animus is way more boring than atma, because of the myth farm, but still, I find it's fine. This is how grind works, you have to do something boring to get good upgrades - and again, I won't accept narrow-minded answers like "it's just a skin" - and if it wasn't boring, it wouldn't be a grind.
I enjoy it because it's rewarding, you do something long and get something good, which is not just a skin, but a further step towards a big upgrade like animus and novus.
People who complain about the drop rates know absolutely nothing about RPGs and should either play some other videogames or stop playing them and be quiet, instead of asking for easy rewards.
Here is the difference between Coil and Relic:
Coil =
Skill - High
Time - Short
Relic =
Skill - Low
Time - Long

If the drop rate happened to be raised, zodiac quest would just become a low skill-short time-high reward quest, which is definitely bad.

[Theresa]

If the drop rate happened to be raised, zodiac quest would just become a low skill-short time-high reward quest, which is definitely bad.

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I wonder why people find so hard to accept this. I find leveling boring as well but It's part of the game.

[winsock]

Animus is way more boring than atma, because of the myth farm.

There are multiple ways to get myth.
You don't need to grind myth esp considering daily bonuses.
The gear you equip makes no difference.
The rewards while obtaining myth are way better than low lvl fates.
You are aware of the progress you will make for the time you invest.

Atma farm requires fate grinding.

[YanDere]

I find myth farm way more boring, because 1500 myth is not something you do with some roulettes and you have to do endless dungeons like Castrum Meridianum Baileys and Copperbell Mines (Hard), though I love the first time bonus, which I, until now, got 100% of the times in Main Scenario Roulette.
De gustibus non disputandum est

[RiceisNice]

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A long tedious grind with a sense of progress =/= A long tedious grind where you can have nothing to show for your efforts. Even in regards to myth, they're so easy to come by because of hunts and CT/ST queues.

Maybe it's them nerfing content, or a lack of foresight to how it affects everything with each change they do (such as not foreseeing the entire server wanting hunts, and thus S ranks never loading, or if they really wanted to make mythology scarce, the hunts rewarding so friggin much of them.)

If they're so concerned with "Relic weapons being too accessible", then why not replace the concept of RNG-Atma with something akin to the books or alexendrites? I mean what's stopping people from getting 12 atmas in a day or two if your concern is "everyone would have access to it," it's still a possibility and has happened. Unless your idea of prolonging something is RNG-gated drops.

[YanDere]

"Long tedius grind" is a tautology, being the grind supposed to be long and tedius.
As it is now, you need luck, farm and time to get your relic, and it's perfect. Why do you people keep splicing the steps? It's not "12 atmas for atma relic, 9 books for animus, 75 alexandrites for novus", it's "12 atmas, 9 books and 75 alexandrites for novus".
I'm not saying it doesn't have to be "too accessible", I'm just saying it wouldn't be fun if it was such an easy and fast quest. And please, luck based? Come on, it's the less luck-based grind I've ever seen. Just a plain 3% drop, it's wonderful! I've been saying this a lot in this thread, but haven't you played Patapon 3? Freaking 0.1% drop from a 15 minute dungeon? Or FFXII? 0.01% drop of a Zodiac Spear from a chest in Henne Mines?
Turn on the game and farm your atmas, instead of wasting time complaining to the walls here.