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    Yeah.. at first I thought it was going pretty smooth. I got ~7 Atmas within like ehh, 3 days? But then nothing would be dropped anymore. This is definitely now the way to go, SE. xD
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    I got all 12 atma for ONE CLASS and it took me, I would say, at least a collective 40 hours getting them all to drop. That's really unacceptable. There has got to be a way for us to do this without relying on "LUCK." 1% luck is not fun.

    I am very hesitant to do this again as I feel like I wasted all of this time getting my Curtana to Atma without stat boosts. To get the stat boosts, we have to do the books for 1500 myth each. (totally separate issue) I think this design is totally flawed.

    I really hope SE does something about this since 2.4 is almost here.
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    They won't make ATMA changes, I'm sure. Its not fair to all those who have already finished that phase. They didn't change things in FFXI, and you shouldn't hope that they would do it here. Its a RELIC Weapon, and you DO have other options (Alternative Weapons). Relics in FFXI takes much longer, and is not intended to be a rush.

    I'm still on my ATMA after 5 months on and off. Still, this is to be expected. If they DID change this, SE would probably get reported to the BBB, due to backlash of so many others who finished ATMA prior. **Laff*

    Quote Originally Posted by Centershock View Post
    I got all 12 atma for ONE CLASS and it took me, I would say, at least a collective 40 hours getting them all to drop. That's really unacceptable. There has got to be a way for us to do this without relying on "LUCK." 1% luck is not fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnia View Post
    They won't make ATMA changes, I'm sure. Its not fair to all those who have already finished that phase. They didn't change things in FFXI, and you shouldn't hope that they would do it here. Its a RELIC Weapon, and you DO have other options (Alternative Weapons). Relics in FFXI takes much longer, and is not intended to be a rush.

    I'm still on my ATMA after 5 months on and off. Still, this is to be expected. If they DID change this, SE would probably get reported to the BBB, due to backlash of so many others who finished ATMA prior. **Laff*
    They said they might consider increasing the atma drop rate once they increase the level cap, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnia View Post
    They won't make ATMA changes, I'm sure. Its not fair to all those who have already finished that phase. They didn't change things in FFXI, and you shouldn't hope that they would do it here. Its a RELIC Weapon, and you DO have other options (Alternative Weapons). Relics in FFXI takes much longer, and is not intended to be a rush.

    I'm still on my ATMA after 5 months on and off. Still, this is to be expected. If they DID change this, SE would probably get reported to the BBB, due to backlash of so many others who finished ATMA prior. **Laff*
    FFXI =/= FFXIV

    That's funny because what about those people who waited for the week to be over just so they could once again cap 300 myth per week back in 2.0 so they could Zenith their relic? What about those people now since myth is so easy to get? Are we getting backlash from those people too? What are you even talking about, there's no backlash from those players. So please.

    My problem is the RNG factor. There is 1 in 100 chance that you are going to get at atma if you have a Zenith weapon equipped. That is not the kind of grind any of us want. At least give us something that's more progression-based. (i.e. do 25/50/[insert # here] fates in one area and receive an atma.)

    You said it's not intended to be a rush, but some people got all 12 atmas in a span of less than 3 hours while others took weeks, even months to get all 12. Is that what you'd consider a rush? 3 hours =/= 40+ hours. How is this fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centershock View Post
    FFXI =/= FFXIV
    Its not fair. Yea, I get it. But if you think SE is going to change anything, you are going to be in a world of hurt. The stark reality is... posting on this forum isn't really going to make a difference. I've done over 2000 fates, and well beyond 100 hours- and I do so casually while watching Netflix. I have no high expectation, I just flow with it. The energy it takes to post here, is best used getting an alternate weapon. That which fair is simply irrelevant to RNG. Centershock, progression tracking starts with the Myth grind you do for the Animus- your wish is granted! GRATS! =)

    I feel the pain of the grind, but I also accept it. This is the price to be paid for not seeking out the alternative weapons.

    Hoping for ATMA changes is a waste, period.
    Watch TV, Netflix, take breaks, go with the flow- or you may go mad. Deal with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnia View Post
    Its not fair. Yea, I get it. But if you think SE is going to change anything, you are going to be in a world of hurt. The stark reality is... posting on this forum isn't really going to make a difference. I've done over 2000 fates, and well beyond 100 hours- and I do so casually while watching Netflix. I have no high expectation, I just flow with it. The energy it takes to post here, is best used getting an alternate weapon. That which fair is simply irrelevant to RNG. Centershock, progression tracking starts with the Myth grind you do for the Animus- your wish is granted! GRATS! =)

    I feel the pain of the grind, but I also accept it. This is the price to be paid for not seeking out the alternative weapons.

    Hoping for ATMA changes is a waste, period.
    Watch TV, Netflix, take breaks, go with the flow- or you may go mad. Deal with it!
    It's funny that it's people like you who don't have these problems then look down on others when they express their opinions about these problems. Go take your high horse elsewhere, or at least provide helpful input instead of just telling us to accept it and telling us that hoping is a waste of time. I honestly don't believe you understand a word I'm saying. I also love that you didn't answer my question about myth grinding back in 2.0 when the cap was 300 so I'm not going to bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnia View Post
    They won't make ATMA changes, I'm sure. Its not fair to all those who have already finished that phase. They didn't change things in FFXI, and you shouldn't hope that they would do it here. Its a RELIC Weapon, and you DO have other options (Alternative Weapons). Relics in FFXI takes much longer, and is not intended to be a rush.
    This is not FFXI. In FFXI, yes, the relic took a while, but was still useful. The ATMA version is already obsolete. With the rate at which they release new gear/raise the item lvl, it's silly to expect a quest to take a year. I understand they wanted a relic quest to take long than the original relic quest, which could be done in a day, but imo, they went to the other extreme. ATMA was just dumb. I don't care for the nexus grind either, but at least that is grinding level 50 content as opposed to grinding level 5 fates for atma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnia View Post
    They won't make ATMA changes, I'm sure. Its not fair to all those who have already finished that phase. They didn't change things in FFXI, and you shouldn't hope that they would do it here. Its a RELIC Weapon, and you DO have other options (Alternative Weapons). Relics in FFXI takes much longer, and is not intended to be a rush.

    I'm still on my ATMA after 5 months on and off. Still, this is to be expected. If they DID change this, SE would probably get reported to the BBB, due to backlash of so many others who finished ATMA prior. **Laff*
    as a current FFXI player, your statement is clearly wrong. While the amount of stuff needed for a FFXI Relic/Mythic didnt change, the mechanics to aquire them have been tremendously eased up, by allowing people to solo farm the currency/do assaults/etc and by putting them in on campaign weeks where different BCs drop additional stuff. So the dev team does change the progression rate either directly or indirectly, by lessening the amount needed to participate in content, or by adding the same drops to other content. It only doesnt apply to Empyrean weapons after the lvl 90 trials.
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