Limit the amount of healers in a party in frontlines

[Vittorino]

put on tank? No I just have a ray of class that are geared to choose from. I'm a Healer Full BiS, regardless of the situation. If you stack healers you lack dps. it's pretty simple. If you can't kill them. leave them be; take another Post. It's called a tactical approach.
I don't need to masquerade and hide my class. it's out in the open

Get good, stop complaining and work around it instead of crying.

Cheers.

[Xisin]

put on tank? No I just have a ray of class that are geared to choose from. I'm a Healer Full BiS, regardless of the situation. If you stack healers you lack dps. it's pretty simple. If you can't kill them. leave them be; take another Post. It's called a tactical approach.
I don't need to masquerade and hide my class. it's out in the open

Get good, stop complaining and work around it instead of crying.

Cheers.

You obviously can't read. Healers by themselves are not overpowered. It is a certain composition, which I've listed and have listed the tactical drawbacks and advantages of each. This being a pvp type of event, a metagame will eventually start to take form, and with how this is trending this is certaintly going to be it. Usually in any serious pvp game such a league, dota, or any fighting game, once a meta becomes cemented its usually the developer that ends up breaking it - not the player. You can protect your power as much as you want though.For the record I win far, far more than I lose. You're only argument is herp derp get gud, I havent even seen you cite a proper case.

All I'm saying is that the numbers for healers en masses doesnt seem to have been porperly balanced. - mainly hots, stacking regens, medicas, and fairies... aside from that lustrates. (hai cleric stance schs) the theme in all these? cc doesnt do much against them the regens are instant and tick once applied + they stack, lustrates are instant and while the medica does take a casting time its not hard to get off. Normal cures mustbe super easy to get off because as a blm with a gcd of 2.29 I have little issues in casting... Healers have a casting time on cure at about 1.87... thats super easy to get off under pressure.

I've covered the whole go elsewhere approach when then just becomes a game of numbers that you won't win between two equally skilled teams (you know the only theoretical way to accurately approach balance - between equal players.) In a discussion of balance - outplay doesnt work since both players - or teams will know what to do.

[Sen_Terrechant]

TIL: That people throw their faces against a team with 3 healers, and expect to win when they have 1 or 0.

Healers are not overpowered, multiple healers is not overpowered. People simply havent learned to actually PvP. Many of the people posting here im 95% sure are PvPing for the first time ever, or have only ever casually PvPed in other games.

The only issue with multiple healer parties is this: The uncordinated masses get rolled over by it because they cant focus DPS, they cant pressure. They all choose seperate targets and then get mad when it dosent die, then they take it to the forums and bitch for nerfs.

This games PvP is actually pretty decent, which suprised me because it was a mostly PvE game.

[Divinemight]

TIL: That people throw their faces against a team with 3 healers, and expect to win when they have 1 or 0.
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Than is a wild claim, but option out the fact of three instant raises......hehe.

This is a team based game, no one cares if you can't kill a healer solo, main concern is the overstaking becomes a problem.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Than is a wild claim, but option out the fact of three instant raises......hehe.

This is a team based game, no one cares if you can't kill a healer solo, main concern is the overstaking becomes a problem.

Which it is not if you are coordinated.

[Liselsia]

Which it is not if you are coordinated.

This is the problem. It takes good coordination to over take a heavy healer team. It takes almost zero coordination for a heavy healer team to keep entire team alive. The burden is completely on dps and tanks. Where healing is pretty much a solo endeavor, as long as your good enough, that all that matters.

A single good healer can move mountains, a single good dps cant move a molehill. You need entire team coordination to overtake 2-3 healers. Where you only need a single healer rolling his face on his keyboard to do the opposite.

[Sen_Terrechant]

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So you want to nerf healers in PvP, because people cant coordinate? You do understand how asinine that sounds right? PvP should never ever be balanced around the lowest tier of play- no game should ever be balanced on the lower tier of play. Im sorry that people cant pull off basic coordination but dont punish the rest of us because you cant do that.

Healers are not overpowered, the ignorant masses are. If you cant pull out the coordination to focus a healer you arent winning the match anyways.

This sheep attitude wrecks games where the Devs are stupid enough to listen to people ranting and raving about balance they know nothing about. I sure hope SE does not do that here.

[Kaisha]

Than is a wild claim, but option out the fact of three instant raises......hehe.

And guess how fast a freshly raised healer dies when the DPS are actually focused?

The problem is as Sen said, the majority that pug don't listen to chat, don't follow marked targets, and just do whatever they want and expect a win handed to them.

[Seoulstar]

And guess how fast a freshly raised healer dies when the DPS are actually focused?

The problem is as Sen said, the majority that pug don't listen to chat, don't follow marked targets, and just do whatever they want and expect a win handed to them.

A freshly raised healer can actually survive a bunch of focused dps..as the fact that I was freshly raised once and literally the three other healers kept me alive long enough until they died. Coordination or not, it's not a walk in the park to kill a team of healers, especially when the DPS themselves have other dps hitting them.

[Vittorino]

You obviously can't read. Healers by themselves are not overpowered. It is a certain composition, which I've listed and have listed the tactical drawbacks and advantages of each. This being a pvp type of event, a metagame will eventually start to take form, and with how this is trending this is certaintly going to be it. Usually in any serious pvp game such a league, dota, or any fighting game, once a meta becomes cemented its usually the developer that ends up breaking it - not the player. You can protect your power as much as you want though.For the record I win far, far more than I lose. You're only argument is herp derp get gud, I havent even seen you cite a proper case.

apparently, you can't read my argument about your asinine post. nonetheless I didn't read this one just a forewarning because I could careless in any response that you had just made.

Cheers