Who is gonna raid now with the iLvl 110 gear handed to people??

[Velhart]

I'm going to snip this part out, because I have a really big problem with this statement. Competition is good. Competition is great. It pushes you to be better, to pull higher numbers, to streamline and optimize your rotation and learn mechanics.

What you're talking about is not competition. That random guy who's i108 but hasn't even entered second coil? You're not competing with him. Nothing about him is pushing you to better yourself, he's not even related to you in ANY way. He's a distant entity who you will never encounter, and, even if you do, if he wasn't in second coil and you were, you're probably going to be performing better than him anyway.

What you're talking about is ePeen. You want to be viewed as higher tiered than the other guy, which is something entirely seperate from good, healthy competition. You're not kidding anyone by trying to say "But teh randoms make me want to better myself!"

Its called subtle competition. So you are telling me if you are in T8 and there is another MNK there around your ilvl doing much higher than you, you have no influence to figure out why or want to improve yourself? No one is calling out the person like "Haw haw I am doing better than you.". If I see someone doing better than me, I might ask what he does to achieve those numbers. I am not directly competing with him, but it is competition in my head to out DPS him. When I figure out how to go to his numbers or better, I found a way to improve myself, which ultimately made things better for me. I have never once in my MMO career have I used an "ePeen" attitude at someone. Only time it is appropriate to call someone out is if they are doing drastically lower than the required DPS for said fight.

Also, what does it matter if it is someone random or someone I know? If a random person is doing better than me, then I want to know what he is doing to perform better than me. I take the feedback and use it to improve myself, what does it matter where I get it from? Guides, YouTube videos, in game experience, it doesn't matter. Information is information.

Can call it out any way you like, but it improves myself and ultimately my group, who appreciate my efforts at the end of the day as I do for them.

[Eissels]

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If I'm in T8, and there's another MNK pulling much higher than me, of course that's going to inspire competition, but that's not what this thread is talking about. This thread is talking about random casual people who don't raid getting i110 gear, and why that's a "problem."

If there are two monks in one run, it's going to inspire competition. But, here's the thing - we're not talking about two raiders in a raid. We're talking about raiders, and casual people who get their gear from hunts. They are two entirely seperate groups.

I fully support being competitive if there's another DRG you know, doing more DPS than you, and that inspires you to get better. But what on *earth* does that have to do with some random guy standing around in Mor'dhona in full Soldiery gear that he got from hunts?