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    L-D-Omlette's Avatar
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    Leona Thane
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Have you never played MMO's? This has been a thing since Dungeons & Dragons table top games.
    Every game I have played was for the experience had and the enjoyment of said game. The journey is as important as the destination.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I can't speak on behalf of the entire community, but I know in my team at least, before they upgraded the weapons, half of my team had little incentive to push harder in Coils since they had ilvl90 weapons already. The drive and momentum definitely kicked up a notch when they were upgraded to ilvl95. People like the best, not simply alternatives.
    Your static would not fall into the set of players I described. If the assumption is that the weapons were upgraded to get people to go into coil, your team is outside of the group for which the upgrade was implemented. If you are counting your group among the reason that the weapons were improved then it wasn't implemented to get more players into coil. If the consideration was made for teams like yours, then they were upgraded to make raiders feel like they had a reason to raid. Those are very different reasons. It means that the upgrade was for raiders, not to bait non-raiders into raiding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    While you may not care, there are a ton of players who do care about "chasing numbers". Its a standard mind set in end game MMO's. If they make it that gear is much more easier to obtain than it was in a previous patch without drastically better alternatives (like from 2.1 to 2.2), then that is simply bad design. Its kind of a middle finger to those who worked hard to get ilvl110, now everyone is getting up to that point and there isn't even better gear to aim towards for the ilvl110 player. Its an understatement that 2.3 is more of a catching up patch, but people shouldn't be jumping numbers this high only a little over a week of patch. Like I said once, I am just as guilty getting three Sands to BiS my MNK, but doesn't make the system any less corrupt.
    Then you must have hated 2.0 to 2.1, where philosophy rained from the sky and myth cap was raised. i90 was much easier to obtain and there was no drastically better alternatives. This is the patch cycle, and it isn't like this was sprung on people last minute. It makes me wonder why the raiding community bothers to sub for more than a month at a time and only when a new raid patch gets released.

    Also, I don't have a problem with people chasing numbers. What I don't understand is why those that do care so much about what someone else's numbers are. The only reason I can think of is that they want to compare the two and use it as evidence to say "I'm better, because my number is higher."

    People like job metaphors, so I'll use one now. Do you compare your salary to your friends and say "I'm better because I make more." My response to that: "Then Donald Sterling is better than you..."
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    Last edited by L-D-Omlette; 07-19-2014 at 04:58 AM.