When will SE start banning for the witch hunts?

[Felessan]

She was calling locations all day long. Pretty sure they are doing an investigation on said person.

You know what it means? That this person was very kind to you, but you accuse her with cheating in return.
There no way a single person can find a lot of mark by herself, especially in prime time. If she keeps posting them - it means that she has a good sources of information and just *repost* them for your benefit. It's very common and quite popular.
Most hunting people even have macros /l#, /fc or /p <flag> that repost <pos> you get to given channel.

There are a simple trick - join a hunting party and post a random <pos> there - there will be huge crowd in a minute, even if it's just plain fake. This and not radar shows how things really works. Radar just simplify some things, but they are not the most important ones.

[jomoru]

I'm seeing a lot of people witch hunting currently, blaming everyone who does hunts effectively, as a third party tool user.

This sort of thing is wrong, why is that people are allowed to sling these kind of insults and attacks at people, people that simply understand the workings of the hunt systems, that each creature has a spawn timer and by tracking these, using simple things such as a pen and paper, they're immediately branded a third party tool user.

So I ask, when are they going to start being removed for throwing slanderous comments like this at people?

Maybe people need to stop assuming everyone is "cheating" and try to learn how the system works.

Because even fi you don't cheat there's a good chance your "information" is built on the back of someone who did.

[Ihm]

Because even fi you don't cheat there's a good chance your "information" is built on the back of someone who did.

Hahahahahahahaha, no.

Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.

[Tupsi]

Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.

Considering that some zones are extremely large and if they truly can spawn anywhere at any time, if the linkshell can cover every inch of the zone, sure. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to believe that someone can call out a spawn that's nowhere near it as exampled in a post not too long ago. You can track ToDs all you want, but if the monster has no set location, you can't realistically call it out if you're nowhere near it.

Now, if their spawn pattern is a set pattern, it's very possible, but so far I haven't seen anything to show that it'll pop in x,y,z locations in rotation, it's more like x,z,z,y,b,c,a,x.

[TheMagicIndian]

Considering that some zones are extremely large and if they truly can spawn anywhere at any time, if the linkshell can cover every inch of the zone, sure. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to believe that someone can call out a spawn that's nowhere near it as exampled in a post not too long ago. You can track ToDs all you want, but if the monster has no set location, you can't realistically call it out if you're nowhere near it.

Now, if their spawn pattern is a set pattern, it's very possible, but so far I haven't seen anything to show that it'll pop in x,y,z locations in rotation, it's more like x,z,z,y,b,c,a,x.

They do have spawn patterns...

And as someone that participates in the very same LS that Ihm mentioned, finding the A ranks is piss easy. Got the ToD? Send 2 parties worth of people to scout the zone and find it in very short order. B ranks are just happenstance when they are found by us. People rarely go out and look for them specifically. All it takes is a little bit of effort but no, people would rather focus on the inconsequential radar.

[Ihm]

Considering that some zones are extremely large and if they truly can spawn anywhere at any time, if the linkshell can cover every inch of the zone, sure. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to believe that someone can call out a spawn that's nowhere near it as exampled in a post not too long ago. You can track ToDs all you want, but if the monster has no set location, you can't realistically call it out if you're nowhere near it.

Now, if their spawn pattern is a set pattern, it's very possible, but so far I haven't seen anything to show that it'll pop in x,y,z locations in rotation, it's more like x,z,z,y,b,c,a,x.

The monsters are in set locations, multiple set locations, but still set locations, they're not random at all, also linkshells hold 128 members. Zones are also tiny.

[jomoru]

Hahahahahahahaha, no.

Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.

So people you don't know, who aren't even in there anymore clearly aren't cheating because.. reasons. If you had said "my FC who I've been with for months wouldn't cheat" I'd see an argument, but a random pug LS?

[Blackweaver]

Honestly, if people weren't using third party tools that were giving them an edge over people who are playing the game legitimately, there would be no "Witch Hunts". In this case, one should be blaming the cause, not the effect, for their grievances. And as someone else in the thread mentioned with chocobo names, one of my friends is able to identify these third party app users by standing in a corner somewhere, where these hunt targets don't spawn, with his chocobo given the B rank's name. Showing up, a few people no where near him called out his chocobo's location. If you aren't an app user, which I am assuming you are not, then the blame should be placed on the ones using the app to cheat, not the people who are frustrated with app users abusing the system. My two gil.

[Elven]

I agree it's time to stop defending actions like oh but how do you know it's not just a well organized FC or a good LS we don't care or want to hear that we just want people to agree that cheating is going on and everytime you think about going for a hunt you're discouraged from doing it. So can everyone get on the same page about the hunts instead of offering reasons why people are successful and understand that it's not about that it's about cheaters.

[Evenstar]

Hahahahahahahaha, no.

Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.

Nooooo you MUST be cheating .... must be! M U ST ... right?

Sigh lol all those people calling for cheaters .... drives me nuts.