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    jomoru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihm View Post
    I'm seeing a lot of people witch hunting currently, blaming everyone who does hunts effectively, as a third party tool user.

    This sort of thing is wrong, why is that people are allowed to sling these kind of insults and attacks at people, people that simply understand the workings of the hunt systems, that each creature has a spawn timer and by tracking these, using simple things such as a pen and paper, they're immediately branded a third party tool user.

    So I ask, when are they going to start being removed for throwing slanderous comments like this at people?

    Maybe people need to stop assuming everyone is "cheating" and try to learn how the system works.

    Because even fi you don't cheat there's a good chance your "information" is built on the back of someone who did.
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    Ihm Kasukabe
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    Because even fi you don't cheat there's a good chance your "information" is built on the back of someone who did.
    Hahahahahahahaha, no.

    Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihm View Post


    Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.
    Considering that some zones are extremely large and if they truly can spawn anywhere at any time, if the linkshell can cover every inch of the zone, sure. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to believe that someone can call out a spawn that's nowhere near it as exampled in a post not too long ago. You can track ToDs all you want, but if the monster has no set location, you can't realistically call it out if you're nowhere near it.

    Now, if their spawn pattern is a set pattern, it's very possible, but so far I haven't seen anything to show that it'll pop in x,y,z locations in rotation, it's more like x,z,z,y,b,c,a,x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Considering that some zones are extremely large and if they truly can spawn anywhere at any time, if the linkshell can cover every inch of the zone, sure. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to believe that someone can call out a spawn that's nowhere near it as exampled in a post not too long ago. You can track ToDs all you want, but if the monster has no set location, you can't realistically call it out if you're nowhere near it.

    Now, if their spawn pattern is a set pattern, it's very possible, but so far I haven't seen anything to show that it'll pop in x,y,z locations in rotation, it's more like x,z,z,y,b,c,a,x.
    They do have spawn patterns...

    And as someone that participates in the very same LS that Ihm mentioned, finding the A ranks is piss easy. Got the ToD? Send 2 parties worth of people to scout the zone and find it in very short order. B ranks are just happenstance when they are found by us. People rarely go out and look for them specifically. All it takes is a little bit of effort but no, people would rather focus on the inconsequential radar.
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    Last edited by TheMagicIndian; 07-18-2014 at 11:22 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Considering that some zones are extremely large and if they truly can spawn anywhere at any time, if the linkshell can cover every inch of the zone, sure. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to believe that someone can call out a spawn that's nowhere near it as exampled in a post not too long ago. You can track ToDs all you want, but if the monster has no set location, you can't realistically call it out if you're nowhere near it.

    Now, if their spawn pattern is a set pattern, it's very possible, but so far I haven't seen anything to show that it'll pop in x,y,z locations in rotation, it's more like x,z,z,y,b,c,a,x.
    The monsters are in set locations, multiple set locations, but still set locations, they're not random at all, also linkshells hold 128 members. Zones are also tiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihm View Post
    Hahahahahahahaha, no.

    Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.

    So people you don't know, who aren't even in there anymore clearly aren't cheating because.. reasons. If you had said "my FC who I've been with for months wouldn't cheat" I'd see an argument, but a random pug LS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihm View Post
    Hahahahahahahaha, no.

    Gilgamesh has 1 large LS that swaps members in and out what want to actively participate in hunts, ToDs are tracked and called out when relevant, then everyone covers the zone to find it. Nothing 3rd party tool about it, simply man power and knowledge dominated.
    Nooooo you MUST be cheating .... must be! M U ST ... right?

    Sigh lol all those people calling for cheaters .... drives me nuts.
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