Band-Aid fix on hunts didn't work

[Welsper59]

The mention of a bandaid fix and subsequent complaints just saddens me. Of course a bandaid fix is not going to do much. It all depends on how severe the problem is, where the source of it comes from, and what reason it exists. Why you would expect it to fix everything (or do much at all depending on the server) is beyond me. It's like getting a limb cut off and applying one of these onto it, thinking it'll get better...

[Azurymber]

The trend on balmung atm is that so many people show up to A or S ranks that they go invisible for -everyone- and people move forward to make them appear, assume they were agrod, and start the fight before more people show up

[Krr]

Let's talk about dumping as much of your paladin aggro combo as possible into the 30-second window an A-rank is alive and still getting 2 seals because 80 people aren't going to wait for the rest of your party (scouting other open windows) to show up.

Working as intended!

[Fendred]

Without the ability to summon all your party members to your location, the increase to HP isn't going to do much. We've known this since release with Behemoth and Odin.

[Ooshima]

Please, read the live letter and show me where it says it's mandatory to join a party? Second why do you think you have to be in a party to be social? I have no issue pulling it when only 4 to 8 players show up except when the rest of the self entitled horde show up screaming because I we didn't wait. Also as I stated you can't be in a party if queued up for DF. I know it hard for someone like you to understand but some of us are doing hunts as a pass time while we do other things in the open world. We are gathering, doing treasure maps, guildleve, FATE for atma, Animus books, Beastmen dailies, and sightseeing. I'm not logging in with the solo purpose to grind hunts.

Please read, where the hell in my reply said MANDATORY LOL. I said "you better call for help" which is what the LIVE letter said, and below the translated Q&A.

If you come across one of these more difficult marks, we hope you'll make use of the party finder or shout to enlist a few able-bodied adventurers to help.

You still think you don't have to be in a party for A and S rank? Yeah Yoshida did not say you absolutely have to if you have to be strictly anal on the words itself but it is a clear signal that you have to be in a party to down it and reap the intended rewards.

Some of us in full parties aren't even getting full reward at times because either self entitled people like you pulls early when the mark could be shared by a larger community or there are simply too much people around. Hunters like us dedicate our time to comb areas and locate marks and share it around in FC/LS and shouting out the coordinates in shouts to share the mark to only have people like you who think it is fine to pull early and we are self entitled. Well if you found the mob and you'd like to pull it is fine, but if you pulled a mob other players shared then you are pretty much of an asshole which I hope you are not.

If you are doing Hunts as sidegrades then I don't think you can complain about sidegrade returns. You can never earn marks like the dedicated hunters do if you don't do it dedicated. It is not possible to not put in the same effort but expecting the same rewards, period.

[Dyvid]

Please read, where the hell in my reply said MANDATORY LOL. I said "you better call for help" which is what the LIVE letter said, and below the translated Q&A.

Producer already said A and S ranks are tough cookies that you better call for help and join a party in the live letter before 2.3.

Letter from the producer: Which reminds me, I know a lot of players have been concerned this will be like back in the day, where one player or party would claim an enemy, and lock everyone else out from getting a reward. You'll be happy to know that the Hunt was not designed with any such claiming system in mind. In fact, some of the elite marks are so powerful, it would be in your best interest to shout for help before trying to lay a hand on them. I've also heard the more elusive elite marks drop rare items as well. These rare items are distributed on a player-by-player basis, so don't hesitate to reach for a helping hand.

This is what I want. As for what kind of player I am? Read my first. As of today I don't do hunts. The only thing I do is what I always do when I see a player struggle with a monster be it Hunt, FATE, or other; drop some cure on them and take the adds. I'll leave hunts and the drama that comes with it to you dedicated hunters.

P.S. I wouldn't throw words like self entitled around then follow it up with a statement like this.

If you are doing Hunts as sidegrades then I don't think you can complain about sidegrade returns. You can never earn marks like the dedicated hunters do if you don't do it dedicated. It is not possible to not put in the same effort but expecting the same rewards, period.

[skaterger]

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I don't think it's an issue though. Players not in a full party are only able to kill B rank hunts and even then it's likely some asshat of the horde will come over and deliberately reset the mob. Solo players will never be able to get full credits from A and S rank mobs due to lack of spawn locations and just not being able to generate enough enmity.
Organised groups and linkshells are mainly after A and S rank spawns and I find it pretty funny when hundreds of players show up at B rank hunts and get butthurt when a small group of players pulled before they arrive, all over 5 paltry seals. I mean looking from their point of view, they will never be able to get full credit if they waited, even if they were the ones who found it.

[Ooshima]

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For the record, you were the one calling the other hunters being self entitled when they call you out for pulling early. Which again if u refer to the above, if you found the mob and u want to pull, fine by all means. But if you are not the finder and you pulled and you think that you are being called by people who you think self entitled, you are the one being self entitled.

And nope, the last statement is a fact that goes everywhere. If you don't put in time and effort to hunt, don't expect the kind of hundreds of seals the dedicated hunters get per day basis. If you don't but in dedication into raiding, don't expect clearing T9 before Patch 2.3 etc. Nothing to do with being self entitled or not.

Organised groups and linkshells are mainly after A and S rank spawns and I find it pretty funny when hundreds of players show up at B rank hunts and get butthurt when a small group of players pulled before they arrive, all over 5 paltry seals. I mean looking from their point of view, they will never be able to get full credit if they waited, even if they were the ones who found it.

Depends on the finder actually. If the finder wanted to share, then his/her wish should be respected. Of course not a lot of the hunter follows such ideal but for me and the handful of people I hunt with, I think we think the same way at least. Because getting 3 seals out of a max of 5 from a B rank is still.. some seals and myth at least I guess? And if the finder wanted to share with others but someone being a jerk and pulled, I think it is not too nice. And also if you are a private party during private hunts and pulled/sniped then I guess there isn't an argument either - but sometimes the sniper was found to be in a network of hunting LS and I guess people aren't too happy about it either. It is like you are benefiting from the LS but didn't return the favor and contribute back.

[skaterger]

Oh yes I agree with you there definitely. Those people are called leechers and no better than those who afk in MD waiting for a report. And when they find spawns, they don't share and are pretty much jerks. My original point was more of casual players not in linkshells who are limited really to only B rank hunts. If they wait they would never be able to get anything.

[Azurymber]

Just did S rank in coerthas, was there 3 or 4 min. COULD NOT SEE THE MOB -ONCE-. Neither could half my party. While we were there pretty well from the start, we got 5 seals.