Physick vs Adloquium

[Viridiana]

Not to say that Stoneskin shouldn't be cast before a pull, it should, but during a fight, your Adlo will prove to more beneficial.

Had a LX fight where the SCH cast like 30 stoneskins and 2 lustrates. We had to replace him because it kept leading to wipes. I was pretty sad because his lowest Adlo was doing more than even his tank SS could do.

[Ephany]

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I get what you're saying but healers don't work on rotation.
We do what we need to dependent on situation.

The reason I was throwing so much at him at the one time was purely because he needed it. It took everything I had just to keep him standing for the time he did before we wiped.

Gear wise, I have i90 gear and my zenith weapon. Which is more than enough for this dungeon normally.
Or at least, I've not had any problems healing it.

[IveraIvalice]

I'm gonna guess the tank was a war and he took damage very fast

[SeraviEdalborez]

I'm gonna guess the tank was a war and he took damage very fast

Acting as if Warriors take more damage inherently.

[IveraIvalice]

Acting as if Warriors take more damage inherently.

^

I partied with a lot of wars that take way more damage then they should and some who are very good. But mostly ones who drop more then half their hp in 2 seconds. Not enough time to keep them up. So yes if they don't know how to play their job effectively in big pulls they will take more base damage then a pld. More hp does not make up for the lack of defense

Still wondering if the tank was a war

[SeraviEdalborez]

I was mocking you. WARs do not take more damage inherently. Even comparing a bad WAR to a bad PLD. It has been repeatedly stated that Shield Oath and Defiance are about equal in terms of eHP.

[giantslayer]

When deciding adlo or physick, I usually ask myself three questions:
1. How much shield from a previous adlo am I throwing away?
2. How likely is it the new shield will be used before it expires? (For tanks, that is basically guaranteed, but if dps takes a stray hit, the shield may go to waste.)
3. Am I in danger of running out of mp?

If the tank is really getting pounded and my mp is holding up, I'll usually cast mostly adlo.

The nice thing about stoneskin is the 30 min duration. IMHO, its primary use is to shield someone who probably won't take the damage within the next 30 seconds.

I try to save whispering dawn for when multiple people need healing. It's the only good group heal you get as a scholar. WD heals 700 total over the 21 seconds, and in the time it took to cast, you could have done embrace for 300. So you gain 400, but lose the ability to heal the whole party if things get crazy. Just not worth it IMHO. I think you may be better served by having your faerie cast fey illumination for beefing up single target healing.

[IveraIvalice]

I was mocking you. WARs do not take more damage inherently. Even comparing a bad WAR to a bad PLD. It has been repeatedly stated that Shield Oath and Defiance are about equal in terms of eHP.

You don't have to clarify, I knew you were. But since you seem to need a clarification, my "^" ment that I am absolutely saying what you think I am.

My opinion stands. The effect of defiance and shield oath are not the same, it will take about twice the heals to get a war topped off then it would a pld. You can mock me all you want but my experiences will out weight your empty words.
Regardless, I'm not here to debate with you. There are a lot more bad wars then there are bad plds. And I've seen far too many thinking that the healer is the problem. Just keep that in mind op.

[Lyrinn]

If anything, a good WAR is easier to keep up. With Beserk+Bloodbath, Vengeance, and IB, a WAR can sustain himself through a large pull without requiring too many heals. PLD can do HG with Bulwark and Sentinel after but he will still require heals.

The effect of defiance and shield oath are not the same, it will take about twice the heals to get a war topped off then it would a pld.

And then you realise Defiance also gives them a healing boost to make up for the larger health pool. The math has been done, EHP is roughly the same.

You can mock me all you want but my experiences will out weight your empty words.

The irony.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

well, i hate to acept it but yes, tanks love big pulls and yes, the only way to save them is spamming adlo and lustrate when need it, why? because some times undergeared tanks love big pulls too xD, and depends on your ilvl, im i100 so, fey illumination and physick+adlo combo works greatg, alsa, what the guy up said