Physick vs Adloquium

[giantslayer]

When deciding adlo or physick, I usually ask myself three questions:
1. How much shield from a previous adlo am I throwing away?
2. How likely is it the new shield will be used before it expires? (For tanks, that is basically guaranteed, but if dps takes a stray hit, the shield may go to waste.)
3. Am I in danger of running out of mp?

If the tank is really getting pounded and my mp is holding up, I'll usually cast mostly adlo.

The nice thing about stoneskin is the 30 min duration. IMHO, its primary use is to shield someone who probably won't take the damage within the next 30 seconds.

I try to save whispering dawn for when multiple people need healing. It's the only good group heal you get as a scholar. WD heals 700 total over the 21 seconds, and in the time it took to cast, you could have done embrace for 300. So you gain 400, but lose the ability to heal the whole party if things get crazy. Just not worth it IMHO. I think you may be better served by having your faerie cast fey illumination for beefing up single target healing.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

well, i hate to acept it but yes, tanks love big pulls and yes, the only way to save them is spamming adlo and lustrate when need it, why? because some times undergeared tanks love big pulls too xD, and depends on your ilvl, im i100 so, fey illumination and physick+adlo combo works greatg, alsa, what the guy up said

[ZhycranaDranix]

WHM > SCH

Divine Seal +Regen + A Medica II with a 18% SS + Protect = OP

[PetiteMalFleur]

Those mobs hit hard and have a lot of HP! Even a super geared tank will drop fast if they aren't using CDs properly to help out Super Scholar. You know, the one who is full i110 and has 4 stacks of aetherflow. With your stated gear level it just isn't happening.

However, the best way to handle big pulls was to do everything you did and use shadow flare. Hopefully your tank pops CD next time and the mobs die fast enough those CDs don't run out.

As for your tank who mains scholar... He spams adlo... Wut? What good does it do when your previously one is still up? He's going to spend most of the time getting 400 HP heals rather than 1000 HP heals than cost less mana. As for his tanking, if that shield is getting knocked off every gcd he most certainly did not have a CD up.

[SeraviEdalborez]

For large enough pulls, chain-Adlo works.

[Menae]

Chain Adloing is the best single target hps outside of lustrate if the tank takes damage quickly enough to knock down the shield between each casts. This usually means big pulls (so the different mobs will stagger their attacks and provide a constant flow of damage), or mobs with much quicker attack speeds than are normally seen in this game.

A SCH should only very rarely cast stoneskin in combat. It's really only useful for buffering targets already at max hp, since if they are missing almost any amount of life, Adlo or Physick will be better, and it takes a while to cast so the hps is even worse than the raw healing numbers. Basically it's for fights with large scripted downtimes, and those tend to feature a second healer (probably a WHM who can stoneskin more effectively).

[FoxyAreku]

I'm not max, but it seems obvious to me that you use adl if the shield isn't currently active, but if it is active you should use physick, because galvanize won't do anything if they already have a shield.

[Ashkendor]

I always thought I was a good SCH till a run in Hullbreaker Isle today had me getting lectured from a tank with a bad attitude about how his main is a healer and I'm doing it wrong :/
I can brush off his snide comments easily enough, but if I'm able to improve, I'll take on board any real advice you guys wanna give me.

He had over-pulled some mobs, Whispering Dawn was active and I had SS down, Eye for an eye, stoneskin and protect on him, and was spamming Psysick with the occasional Adloquium thrown in to stop damage for a sec whilst I reapplied stoneskin etc...
He still died, hence his bad attitude and lecture.

He says I should only have been spamming Adloquium when it's a big mob and not use Physick.

There's a point at which the tank has to shoulder at least some of the blame for overpulling instead of screaming at the healer for not being able to keep him alive through a huge pack of mobs eating his face. Seriously, you're all in the dungeon for the same reason so there's no point in being nasty. Get back up, dust yourself off, and redo the pull with a few less mobs. All you lose is a little bit of time. No big.

The EX dungeons in particular carry a very real risk of overpulling as the mobs hit fairly hard.

[WhiteTerror]

Can confirm. You should be spamming Adlo on big pulls and definitely not stoneskinning.

[Vittorino]

I always thought I was a good SCH till a run in Hullbreaker Isle today had me getting lectured from a tank with a bad attitude about how his main is a healer and I'm doing it wrong :/
I can brush off his snide comments easily enough, but if I'm able to improve, I'll take on board any real advice you guys wanna give me.

He had over-pulled some mobs, Whispering Dawn was active and I had SS down, Eye for an eye, stoneskin and protect on him, and was spamming Psysick with the occasional Adloquium thrown in to stop damage for a sec whilst I reapplied stoneskin etc...
He still died, hence his bad attitude and lecture.

He says I should only have been spamming Adloquium when it's a big mob and not use Physick.

Thoughts?
All advice welcome

Ya, my thoughts is he's a bad tank who can't cycle his cd's you did fine with your current set-up don't let neanderthals dictate how to heal.