Wow... thank-you RNG.

[NintenPyjak64]

Thats helpful....

1.0 was a time where even double melds were harsh. You had to use the flunky crafting UI to make a very expensive weapon (some pieces NEEDED to be HQ which was a pain from the get go) then you needed very expensive materia to double meld. First was always 100% but then the second meld dropped to 30% success, which may as well have been 10% success. If you failed, you lose ALL materia AND the weapon you spent so much crafting.

At least on Ragnarok at the time, base weapons were 10 mil, materia was maybe 5m each. This system, even Novus, is so much more tame then it once was. This is not even mentioning FFXI

[Nekodar]

1.0 was a time where even double melds were harsh. You had to use the flunky crafting UI to make a very expensive weapon (some pieces NEEDED to be HQ which was a pain from the get go) then you needed very expensive materia to double meld. First was always 100% but then the second meld dropped to 30% success, which may as well have been 10% success. If you failed, you lose ALL materia AND the weapon you spent so much crafting.

At least on Ragnarok at the time, base weapons were 10 mil, materia was maybe 5m each. This system, even Novus, is so much more tame then it once was. This is not even mentioning FFXI

10M in 1.x was converted to 100k in 2.0 iirc, so it can easily be argued that it's way more expensive now. Might have been a 10M to 1M, in which case it's around parity.

[Sapphic]

10M in 1.x was converted to 100k in 2.0 iirc, so it can easily be argued that it's way more expensive now. Might have been a 10M to 1M, in which case it's around parity.

Was converted to 1 million.

[Giantbane]

1.0 was a time where even double melds were harsh. You had to use the flunky crafting UI to make a very expensive weapon (some pieces NEEDED to be HQ which was a pain from the get go) then you needed very expensive materia to double meld. First was always 100% but then the second meld dropped to 30% success, which may as well have been 10% success. If you failed, you lose ALL materia AND the weapon you spent so much crafting.

At least on Ragnarok at the time, base weapons were 10 mil, materia was maybe 5m each. This system, even Novus, is so much more tame then it once was. This is not even mentioning FFXI

But they took 1.0's crafting and made it VERY good in 2.0, the best in game crafting system I've ever seen (well, the process, i dunno about the stuff you craft though). With materia, they just took a system that was bad and made it less bad. It's not *good* by any stretch of the imagination. The non-interactive RNG fail chance on Novus is pretty lackluster too.

So I guess now the DoW folks know how much it sucks to meld for crafting and gathering. ; ;
I agree that the % chance of success is really bad... both for overmelding and for getting tier IV materia in the first place. :/ Yes, 1.0's method sucked more, but what we have now sucks too.

Well, sort of. The lowest % fail chance on any novus step is 50%. Overmelding starts at 45% (only if you're melding a Tier 1 materia in the first overmeld slot) and goes downhill from there (down to 6%? in the 4th slot for Tier IV). While I like the customization options available to melded gear, the process of spirit bonding and overmelding are both pretty craptacular when compared to the innovative crafting system.