Tam-Tara Deepcroft and Edda

[Wasselin]

I agree that I don't think she was really bringing back her boyfriend at all but just creating bodies for voidsent.

I really want to know though, was what Edda achieved accomplished with a twisted form of White Magic... or was it Black Magic? Or are they really not that separate? Or was it some other kind of magic entirely?

[Bombast]

I agree that I don't think she was really bringing back her boyfriend at all but just creating bodies for voidsent.

I really want to know though, was what Edda achieved accomplished with a twisted form of White Magic... or was it Black Magic? Or are they really not that separate? Or was it some other kind of magic entirely?

Creatures of the Void come to our plane because it's rich in Aether, which in many ways is like air and water to them. Black Magic is essentially the art of using magic like the Voidsent do (Or at least in a similar matter). Which is the problem with Black Magic - learning it will, eventually, lead to you learning from a Void creature itself, or from some third party that originated from the Void.

White Magic is essential a 'pure' magic from our world, in a manner of speaking, 'tainted' by the things that produce aether in our world. It's still dangerous, but for a different reason.

What Edda was doing, regardless if she actually brought her bf back or not, was probably mostly Black Magic, though whether she recognized that is up for debate. I doubt Voidkin could have taught her how to do what she was doing with White Magic, even if they wanted to.

[Kallera]

I got the idea that most of the void sent involved were more attempts to conjure up a body for Avere. With no real lore on this sort of thing Edda had to trial and error the process. One army of monstrosities later Avere gets his "new body" powered by souls.

[Kayokane]

I have my doubts that we've seen the last of our poor Edda. As we know from Haukke Manor, the voidsent are not wont to release those whom sell their souls to them.

[Velox]

It could be that Necromancy itself (by Eorzean definition) is the combining of White Magic (life/restoration) and Black Magic (death/destruction), which would explain why it's not common. Each are rare themselves due to being forbidden. Someone adept enough at magic to have the capacity to mix them would result in a unique and frightening type of magic (and I'm not talking about a job like Red Mage that utilizes magic from each individually, but rather a merging of the two).

[MercuryD]

It could be that Necromancy itself (by Eorzean definition) is the combining of White Magic (life/restoration) and Black Magic (death/destruction), which would explain why it's not common. Each are rare themselves due to being forbidden. Someone adept enough at magic to have the capacity to mix them would result in a unique and frightening type of magic (and I'm not talking about a job like Red Mage that utilizes magic from each individually, but rather a merging of the two).

Not arguing, just bringing up a parallel point. Though this only makes Edda even more strange! Edda was, for lack of a better term, a failure at magic. She admitted that most of her healing was through the use of potions as she couldn't figure magic out... So, either she really hit the books following Avere's death or she reached out for help and the Void answered. I'm thinking the latter.

[Lucke]

I could be wrong, but here's what I get from the whole Edda thing. She created or summoned those soul-less bodies for Avere to inhabit. However, he is too weak to inhabit those bodies. He needs a soul to absorb to make binding to one of those bodies possible. She summoned the Lalafell to Tam-tara to see if his soul was powerful enough. We don't know because we rescue him before Avere can possess? him. Now we enter. Edda's grand design was to get us to come in and use our souls to power Avere.

Ok, so we enter and do our thing. Could it have been a trial? See if our souls are powerful enough to handle everything that Tam-Tara throws at us? Edda even says we have strong souls to give Avere. Not entirely sure how this whole thing would play out if we failed. Would she have Avere eat our soul then possess the iron guys that we fight? Would he have possessed our soul and body?

[MercuryD]

It's true we don't know how it would have played out, but I do agree. The end-game was to have <insert player name here> be the new Avere. I assumed that this would be done by having <player>'s soul absorb by Avere and him using the body, though it is also possible the she's fine with the wholke floating head-thing. I mean, why not, she went on romantic excursions with a severed head. Not too much of a stretch here.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

You're all forgetting that Avere was already long dead. Most likely, a voidkin (floating eye) was simply playing on Edda's weaknesses to gather more souls to consume/become stronger/whatever. The fact is that the boss is NOT Avere. It is simply NOT Avere.

As to the why, think about it: why kill one helpless girl when you can get her to lure others in at a "rescue attempt," only to be consumed, further fueling your strength? (You should all read Steve Harvey's new book - Act Like An Adventurer, Think Like A Voidkin).

[MercuryD]

You're all forgetting that Avere was already long dead. Most likely, a voidkin (floating eye) was simply playing on Edda's weaknesses to gather more souls to consume/become stronger/whatever. The fact is that the boss is NOT Avere. It is simply NOT Avere.

How can you definitively say that the Voidsent we fight isn't, in some part, Avere reborn: Void Style? To be honest, we don't truly what happens after a character dies. Do we truly go to Nald'Thal? For all we know our souls could just be pulled into the Void. I agree it most likely isn't THE Avere but I think it's possible that some part of him could be in there, albeit corrupted by her necromantic experiments.