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  1. #31
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    You are basing this on the Baalzephons and the Allotaur (iirc?) appearing in both instances (Ruins and Tam-Tara)?
    No Im basing this if the fact that Necromancy is a branch of White Magic. (I think, I may need to look up what magic Ampador [mis]used)

    Thought the Deal with the Devil part would be more likely with Edda.
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    Bringing back people from the dead is the most extreme form of White Magic you can accomplish, as White Magic is all about restoration (Black Magic is for destruction). Being a CNJ, Edda most likely knew that with enough power it would be possible, and she was willing to go to any length to achieve that power.
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  3. #33
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    No Im basing this if the fact that Necromancy is a branch of White Magic. (I think, I may need to look up what magic Ampador [mis]used)
    Oh? I didn't know about that, though with Velox's post it makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Bringing back people from the dead is the most extreme form of White Magic you can accomplish, as White Magic is all about restoration (Black Magic is for destruction). Being a CNJ, Edda most likely knew that with enough power it would be possible, and she was willing to go to any length to achieve that power.
    But that wouldn't explain the Voidsent unless White Magic and Black Magic are both tied to it which I am having trouble seeing that. Also her red wedding ability seems pretty destructive to me. I don't count her other abilities since technically it's summoned voidsent. She could have just cross classed though >.>.
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    Last edited by Magis; 07-12-2014 at 04:30 AM.

  4. #34
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    Hiromi Saikou
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    Er... I've not followed the last page of this topic. But I feel I should inform you all that Necromancy, as such, is described as a forbidden art of Thaumaturgy in 1.0 Ul'dah story. People keep dropping Niellefresne's name if quests big and small, demonstrating Yoshida's desire to return to the plot whereby he was murdered likely for his attempt to use the forbidden art. Maybe there is a White Magic or Conjury "tradition" (heresy?) of Necromancy. I also seem to remember having read somewhere that Amdapor had both White and Black mages. Am I mistaken?
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    This game needs more Edda.... And I needs her facial expressions as emotes. Creepy wide mouth grin emotes please.
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  6. #36
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    Valerathon E'savae
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    Darn, I knew there was an Edda thread around here somewhere - I wish I'd seen it before I started this (somewhat) related thread:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...the-moment-%29

    A Perfect Song for Edda, to Avere (and other songs that "capture the moment")
    Perfect for a Conjurer. This Conjurer, particularly. Listen and weep. Weep a lot. A lot. No, I'm serious, have Kleenex nearby, in abundance! (And discuss: maybe there are other songs for your favorite tragic/comical/adventurous moment

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcJGH82INkM
    Feel free to join the broader music discussion I'd hoped the post would start!
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  7. #37
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    I'd love to see her return as a Necromancer job trainer. Unhinged and distant, but somewhat more at peace...

    She could have also gotten in touch with the Alchemy guild-master and gotten in some words with Avere. Though he'd probably insult her and make it worse... So flying demon head was probably the better choice... >_>
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  8. #38
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    I could have seen something so morbid as a Necromancer job in 1.0, but with Yoshida trying to make the protagonists always Neutral Good... I have a hard time seeing that happening. But who knows? I wouldn't have seen anything so chilling as this dungeon coming with all the sanitation that the game has seen in ARR. Then they give us Tam-Tara and Hunberct's delivery quest. This game has stylistic and mood whiplash at times.
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  9. #39
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    I'm good. That last CS was enough to get my seat on the nope train.
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    I see a lot of theorycrafting, but no one mentioning the potentially obvious.

    What if she didn't bring him back at all?

    Is it not possible that what she was really doing was creating a host body (Or bodies) for Voidkin that had deceived her? In Haukke Manor, youth, vigor, and beauty were traded to get the Voidkin toes in the door. The pathway to becoming a Black Mage (Not for us, but seemingly for most ther BLMs), which deals very closely with the Void, is basically a series of hurdles to see if you can resist 'True Power.' And let's consider this (2.3 Spoilers) -

    Do we really think Xende, who had just made a pact with the Voidkin, didn't receive some needling that pushed him into 'To hell with it, open the Void Gates because I'm a'scurd' mode?


    So, was she bringing back her boyfriend? Or just fooled into thinking she could do so?
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    Last edited by Bombast; 07-14-2014 at 05:30 AM.

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