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  1. #61
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    Yoohre_WildRiver's Avatar
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    Yoohree Reborn
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Who needs tanks? More like who needs ANYTHING ELSE?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=GjfCFRHdSfw
    see this kind of things is what make the game fun. kudos to this brave warriors!
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    HeavensWard theme song lyrics:

    - "We can [Stance]dance if we want to
    We can leave your friends behind
    Cause your friends don't [Stance]dance
    And if they don't [Stance]dance
    Well they're no friends of mine"

  2. #62
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    Xyphon's Avatar
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    Shira Tempest
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    Ridill
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Nerfed? People have been tanking end game content with titan-egi since ARR was released. Otherwise, what's the point of Titan-egi in end game?
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  3. #63
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyphon View Post
    Nerfed? People have been tanking end game content with titan-egi since ARR was released. Otherwise, what's the point of Titan-egi in end game?
    It's not the fact that a pet is replacing 2 players' job, it's the fact that it's breaking the fight mechanic, not as intended. They're skipping a crucial mechanic that is suposed to give ~difficulty~ to the fight chained with other mechanics.
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  4. #64
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    It's not the fact that a pet is replacing 2 players' job, it's the fact that it's breaking the fight mechanic, not as intended. They're skipping a crucial mechanic that is suposed to give ~difficulty~ to the fight chained with other mechanics.
    What's your point? People did the exact same thing with t2, and SE never changed it.
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  5. #65
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    It's not the fact that a pet is replacing 2 players' job, it's the fact that it's breaking the fight mechanic, not as intended. They're skipping a crucial mechanic that is suposed to give ~difficulty~ to the fight chained with other mechanics.
    furthermore, tanking ANY ex primal with titan bypasses the tank swap mechanic. If it hasn't been fixed yet, then why would it now?
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  6. #66
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    Denevieve Nebilim
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    How is this any different from by-passing levy's healing mechanic? You all against this need to lay off, they found another way to down it and they don't deserve all the rage their getting.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    As smart as this is. I really hope it gets hotfixed immediately. Tanking on this game is already starting to lack, and now I don't need to be banned from certain fights altogether.
    There's like 1 tank for every 10 billion dps. Is it really that big of a deal? You guys get insta queue for almost everything, and theres normally always a spot in PF for you.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    What's your point? People did the exact same thing with t2, and SE never changed it.
    SE designed ADS to enrage and do nothing but an AoE attack constantly. Players are not breaking the fight mechanics, they're simply waiting for it (I wish people didn't do enrage thought, it's boring). The boss changes the fight mechanics itself because SE designed it that way. Now that is what you could call it "being smart" even if it's a silly way to win (even though I'm against enrage because it's boring and long, I can't deny the previous statement).

    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    furthermore, tanking ANY ex primal with titan bypasses the tank swap mechanic. If it hasn't been fixed yet, then why would it now?
    Bypassing tank swap mechanics didn't break the fight mechanics skipping them like they do with Ramuh, that's the difference. Previous tank swaps are simply waiting for stacks to acumulate and switching, while Ramuh requires items around the arena to do so, items that are aswell used in other mechanics of the fight such as breaking chains or removing extra orbs to decrease Ramuh's damage. If you had both tanks swapping constantly, you'd have to really take care on how many orbs do you wanna consume (extra ones) to leave enough for tanks and chained people constantly, making the fight more hectic at certain points when several mechanics meet at once, as it is designed to be.
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  9. #69
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    furthermore, tanking ANY ex primal with titan bypasses the tank swap mechanic. If it hasn't been fixed yet, then why would it now?
    Priorities.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    How is this any different from by-passing levy's healing mechanic? You all against this need to lay off, they found another way to down it and they don't deserve all the rage their getting.
    Thing with that is, you're not replacing 2 classes. I'm not against it, but do you think you can ignore certain ramuh mechanics normally if it wasn't a native damage reduction? There will be changes in some way coming if this becomes the "norm". First coil is such old content now that it wouldn't make sense to go back and adjust that, since you still need your healers to do it so nothing is getting replaced
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  10. #70
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I'll be pretty surprised if Ramuh's attacks don't eventually get altered such that they bypass the 80% AoE reduction that pets get. That degree of circumvention just seems too high to be ignored.
    Don't even need to do that. All I'd do if I were SE is make his big hit attack single target instead of the tiny AoE around the tank.
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