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  1. #81
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Welcome to Final Fantasy, where your job will be rendered obsolete in an instant because another job was made OP in an unanticipated way. I think it's a great strat, don't get me wrong, but gosh it reminds me of the CoP days when folks literally wouldn't even TRY unless you had two war/nin and at least 1 summoner.
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  2. #82
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Welcome to Final Fantasy, where your job will be rendered obsolete in an instant because another job was made OP in an unanticipated way. I think it's a great strat, don't get me wrong, but gosh it reminds me of the CoP days when folks literally wouldn't even TRY unless you had two war/nin and at least 1 summoner.
    That's actually every mmorpg ever.
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  3. #83
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Welcome to Final Fantasy, where your job will be rendered obsolete in an instant because another job was made OP in an unanticipated way. I think it's a great strat, don't get me wrong, but gosh it reminds me of the CoP days when folks literally wouldn't even TRY unless you had two war/nin and at least 1 summoner.
    This happened in WoW too - Every MMORPG actually lol. CoP days were fun since the groups who cleared it without going the path of least resistance were praised for actually taking a challenge head on lol, Ouryu and One to be Feared for example.
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  4. #84
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    I hope people will take this to next level.

    EOS TANKING
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  5. #85
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    This happened in WoW too - Every MMORPG actually lol. CoP days were fun since the groups who cleared it without going the path of least resistance were praised for actually taking a challenge head on lol, Ouryu and One to be Feared for example.
    The only time where it happened in WoW was vanilla going into the end of TBC. TBC was notorious for it since that's where the term "sunwelled" comes from (mages were sat out for the last raid of the expansion in favor of warlocks and shadow priests). It was nowhere near as rampant as it was in FFXI.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  6. #86
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    AdventZero's Avatar
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    Arianya Advensten
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 89
    With all the tank hate going around these last few month I've started thinking I should play as my drg more. Haven't touched it since 1.0 yet it still has almost i90 gear and I'm sure all you tank hating SoB's don't mind carrying a helpless ex-tank turned drg as he tries to learn his basic combos in you're leet endgame groups. /cheers!
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  7. #87
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    Lord Rulkar
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I myself in FFXI was able to play SMN and use my pets to tank a great many NM's. SE never ever once thought it was not working as intended or felt the need to nerf or they would have done so then. Now in ffxiv using smn to tank various situations why do we need to call out nerf needed when it was allowed and clearly supported by the community at large in FFXI. There were even guides written to help show smn's how to use pets to tank. Why now with this? Do you guys really think a nerf is needed? This is clearly not exploit of any kind just a good use of the legal tools SE has given us. I cannot support nerfing at this time. If we must here than why was smn allowed to thrive so well in ffxi and must die here in a pit of nerfs?
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  8. #88
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    Nakiamiie's Avatar
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    Maelina Sylfei
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 64
    Being able to do things like this, find viable alternate strategies, is awesome. We need more of that and less rinse & repeat of the programmed encounter.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  9. #89
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    Rinh'sae Poales
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I did this with my FC and it was a lot of fun. My Titan-Egi got to be useful!
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  10. #90
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHS View Post
    I myself in FFXI was able to play SMN and use my pets to tank a great many NM's. SE never ever once thought it was not working as intended or felt the need to nerf or they would have done so then. Now in ffxiv using smn to tank various situations why do we need to call out nerf needed when it was allowed and clearly supported by the community at large in FFXI. There were even guides written to help show smn's how to use pets to tank. Why now with this? Do you guys really think a nerf is needed? This is clearly not exploit of any kind just a good use of the legal tools SE has given us. I cannot support nerfing at this time. If we must here than why was smn allowed to thrive so well in ffxi and must die here in a pit of nerfs?
    Because FFXIV is a game where the developers don't want you to think.

    Noticed how there is almost zero customization in the game?
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