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  1. #71
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    NyneAlexander's Avatar
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    Bypassing tank swap mechanics didn't break the fight mechanics skipping them like they do with Ramuh, that's the difference. Previous tank swaps are simply waiting for stacks to acumulate and switching, while Ramuh requires items around the arena to do so, items that are aswell used in other mechanics of the fight such as breaking chains or removing extra orbs to decrease Ramuh's damage. If you had both tanks swapping constantly, you'd have to really take care on how many orbs do you wanna consume (extra ones) to leave enough for tanks and chained people constantly, making the fight more hectic at certain points when several mechanics meet at once, as it is designed to be.
    You still have to do that, tho. All the orbs still have to be removed, and during the post JB phase, you still have to watch how many orbs you're removing to leave enough for the chained people. Whether or not the different strategy is any easier is subjective. (Personally I think its way easier, but still)

    The reason I think this is a good thing, however, is that it eliminates the need for a class that is still in severe shortage. Tanks will still be invited to Ramuh. But now, if there are no tanks available, a party doesn't have to sit around for an hour until two show up.
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    Last edited by NyneAlexander; 07-15-2014 at 02:38 AM.

  2. #72
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    Eggnook24's Avatar
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    Egg Soup
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 50
    This is exactly the type of outside the box thinking that the game needs for future evolvement. Kudos!
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  3. #73
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    MissE's Avatar
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    Miss'e Eliza
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    Titan
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    Monk Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    You still have to do that, tho. All the orbs still have to be removed, and during the post JB phase, you still have to watch how many orbs you're removing to leave enough for the chained people. Whether or not the different strategy is any easier is subjective. (Personally I think its way easier, but still)

    The reason I think this is a good thing, however, is that it eliminates the need for a class that is still in severe shortage. Tanks will still be invited to Ramuh. But now, if there are no tanks available, a party doesn't have to sit around for an hour until two show up.
    There is a difference between clearing orbs and clearing orbs while watching out for the tanks' buff. It is way easier to mindlessly clear the orbs until Rolling Thunder comes. You'll always have enough orbs after Rolling Thunder and Chaotic Strike so that's not really an issue, especially tanks don't need orbs anymore. Well, it's not like clearing the orbs are hard anyway, unless all your DPS have tunnel vision. Did I mention I can bring another DPS and healer, or even 2 DPS instead of 2 tanks? Subjective? Really?

    Now, I do think people will always go for the easy way, you can just look at T2. People will use this method, and it has nothing to do with tank shortage.
    Hey, I'm not complaining though, if SE is not going to change anything, I'll just keep doing this. I've done it both ways and this is way easier anyway, why go against it lol
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  4. #74
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    Youmadesca's Avatar
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    Youmadesca Jewel
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Except i have to keep myself (WHM) immune all the time, as if i get the line and cant spamheal titan, it's a wipe. So the immunity management is still here, to a point.
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  5. #75
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    MissE's Avatar
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    Miss'e Eliza
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    Titan
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    Monk Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Youmadesca View Post
    Except i have to keep myself (WHM) immune all the time, as if i get the line and cant spamheal titan, it's a wipe. So the immunity management is still here, to a point.
    Our healers didn't do this and still manage to keep Titan's health up. Plus, you can always get another healer, and you'll still have 5 DPS. Also, don't forget about sustain.
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  6. #76
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    Edenholt's Avatar
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    Lasdor Edenholt
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MissE View Post
    Our healers didn't do this and still manage to keep Titan's health up. Plus, you can always get another healer, and you'll still have 5 DPS. Also, don't forget about sustain.
    We had two healer, WHM and SCH. Both doing a marvelous job.
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  7. #77
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    Rivest's Avatar
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    Lesley Jordan
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    There is not a single Party Finder party left on Ragnarok looking for a Tank in the Ramuh fight.
    Basicly means no more Ramuh Ex fights for Tanks.
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  8. #78
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    Youmadesca Jewel
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Welp there's a Mrhappy guide on it now, guess it's gonna become a standard strat.
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  9. #79
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    Xairos's Avatar
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    Xairos Karalis
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Yeah, the whole Shortest path to a reward is so desired nowadays.
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  10. #80
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivest View Post
    There is not a single Party Finder party left on Ragnarok looking for a Tank in the Ramuh fight.
    Basicly means no more Ramuh Ex fights for Tanks.
    I, for one, welcome our Titan overlords.
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