Remove the hunt until the system works as intended.

[LalaRu]

I think the Hunt systems triggered some community to give out all its 'best' on behavior. Blacklisting people, calling out names and on top of that, making your own rules of the game (as that people must call the mobs in shout or else get blacklisted) and raging when someone does not follows them. That community created its own world made of rage, but sorry, I would not join that. And you justify it all, calling out that SE have forced you to do so. Your minds are working not as intended.

[Yukiko]

After experiencing the issues with the hunts, I also believe there should be an emergency maintenance to remove hunts from the game temporarily. That's not all though. REWARDS OBTAINED FROM THE HUNTS SHOULD BE ROLLED BACK. All players who logged in since the patch would then receive one free oil, one free sand, and a vanity item as compensation. They can then take the time to implement the system as it was meant to be, and the players who did hunts before will not have an advantage over the players who did not and have to play the new hunt system which will likely not give as many rewards.

That would happen on a browsergame, but not in a clientgame... or at least only on F2P games...
Compared to 1.x we have now 2 Problems:

1) Too random spawning: In 1.x we had random spawning too, but in a specific area and not spread around the whole map, it was possible to wait for it to spawn
2) Best Loot possible and too much: Compared to daily hunts it is ridiculous how much you are getting from normal kills. It is a very good direction that we can now trade those currency into others and buy some good stuff, but they had to make same with the other currency because you can not trade the others into Sand or Oil... You also do not need to let now every NPC sell oil and sand, but at last let us trade in other currency to the new one and not only vice versa!

Addidional Questions:
1) Why feel so many players the need to farm them? Obviously because Sand and Oil -> so what about Coil and alternative progress?
2) Same as we have seen with animus, novus and CT -> Coil is still unplayable for the crowd and most players HOPE to progress with alternative gear -> so what about the Lockout System?

3) Compared to 1.x SE should rethink what was the difference between those FUN fights back then and the FATES or HUNTS we have now!

[Adelphe]

Most of the time that Naul as spawned for example i've got to it just as it dies, not able to land a hit, i've got there thanks to another player shouting its location which is nice, i dont approve of players using this radar app or what ever it is, but surely a quick fix would be to give the elite marks more hp, if naul had just 2x more Health than he does at the moment, i would of got to it before it died and landed a hit and got credit, so i say give the marks more Hp, alot more, and ban all those cheaters =p

[Niota]

I do not believe this is the system SE intended. It was fun randomly finding an NM out int he wild and fighting it with your friends. Now it's a job and full of drama to even get to an S rank, which dies in less than 1 minute.. And most of the time you can't even see it.

SE needs to do something. ANYTHING. There are no lack of ideas on this forum. But don't just sit back and let cheaters destroy what could have been fun.

[Riepah]

Indeed, and i'm not exaggerating, every single so called "hunter" is using a radar to make the process even quicker. Apparently, it wasnt easy nor quick enough for the players to get free sands, oils and alexandrites, they needed an even more...convinient way to get them.

Excuse me, but yes, you are exaggerating. I hunted like hell ever since the patch and am not using this disgusting third party crap. I'd love seeing everyone who does use it banned.
I am also not a casual, I put more time into this than most people would bother to.

I wouldn't want hunts to be removed from the game, as I actually find myself enjoying them, aside from the infuriating times when people are jerks and pull way too early - but the system definitely needs some work. Especially the daily hunts should be made much more useful. Either their reward should be drastically increased, or they should stop being dailies and become repeatable at will instead.

[Amberyl]

Just spent an hour with my dualbox clients in Coerthas with each character's Chocobo named 'Naul,' running to different parts of the map and spawning my companion so I could screenshot the group that came running to each position.

Rather effective way of catching the people using these radar hacks. Even more amusing when they can't figure out which one to run to.

[Ultimatecalibur]

aside from the infuriating times when people are jerks and pull way too early

This phrase is a riot. What is "pull way to early?" When you are not there and didn't find it? When people are on there way from other zones?

A B can be done by 1 person and 4 people can reliably get full credit on one. An A is designed for a party of 8 and S ranks are 24 man. Once an appropriate sized group is there to kill it it should be killed.

[Felessan]

I've also found it funny when I was told the 'community' on my server had 'come together' over Mumble and loads of FCs and LSes we're sharing information making it 'fair for everyone'.

There are a particular trend that people tends to use any "insider" info they hear to pass through immediately to "trusted" sources like their friends and fc. And not to everybody. This is why we see trains everywhere while public ls are as good as dead.

I had nothing against the way this system worked, handing free i110 gear to the casual/mainstream part of the playerbase until i discovered how naive i was to think it was an innocent fun content.

But those crowds are NOT mainstream and casuals, there a lot of hardcore there and most efficient parties are made off FC statics that share their finds immediately on voice chats. It's hardcore crowd that wants get upgrade as soon as possible, and even clearing t9 gives you 1 sands/oil per month on average. Now you can get it an mere day or two, so popularity for hunts is given.
Hunting in prime time requires a lot of dedication and organization as competition just too high. This is why casual players now leaves content almost immediately when they see that "reacting in 2 minutes and take a slow walk" to mark gives them nothing.
System will stabilize itself (same with atma crowds back in the days) when the most dedicated and hardcore got their loot and activity will fall back to reasonable levels.

[SarcasmMisser]

I do not believe this is the system SE intended. It was fun randomly finding an NM out int he wild and fighting it with your friends. Now it's a job and full of drama to even get to an S rank, which dies in less than 1 minute.. And most of the time you can't even see it.

SE needs to do something. ANYTHING. There are no lack of ideas on this forum. But don't just sit back and let cheaters destroy what could have been fun.

How does this even happen on anything but a dead server? You play on a server with tens of thousands of players, this is why we have instances and pop items so you don't have one mob to a whole server.

If this is your idealistic open world content that you are forever chasing what you actually want is a dead server, it is logistically impossible without stripping the mark of rewards completely. Odin only gives vanity stuff and even he summons the whole server.

[ToffeeCoffee]

+1 to rolling back all Sands/Oil rewarded via The Hunt. Time to start fresh and maybe think twice about handing out free stuff to zergers/coordinated 3rd party tool users.

The toxicity is really getting too much now..players being threatened with exemption from content if they solo an open world mob?
This is actually pretty tame compared to stuff I've been reading in /shout over the past few days.

[19:13] dead??
[19:13] people will remember you when progressing content/farming
[19:13] was soloed by summoner titan egi
[19:13] ya
[19:13] lol
[19:13] thanks for raising
[19:14] invite hunt pls
[19:14] titan egi lol
[19:14] Thx for pulling while I try to reset
[19:14] soki-sama n-noooo
[19:14] For you guys do it yourselves
[19:14] lol dafuq?
[19:14] douchebags will be douchebags

I joined a party when Naul spawned right next to me. The zerg showed up and even though I attacked on cue, I didn't get my weekly credit (died in 2 secs).
I have a grand total of 58 Allied Seals (only from dailies). If I find Naul and solo it will I get abused and blacklisted? More than likely. Those people have Sands and Oil pouring in but they still think they're entitled to everything that spawns.