Change Morale to Determination in Front Lines

[PenutButter]

Honestly, they need to stick to making PvP gear actually better in PvP, just don't make it as powerful as it was before. As it stands, there is very very little to actually work for in PvP, which is very very bad for its longevity. I have no idea why they made morale so powerful in the first place but a slight but noticeable difference should be enough. Also, distinction is a very important factor in any multi-player feature but especially PvP. Frontline has so many people that a few "geared" players don't really matter anyways. Then again, they give you so many god damn PvP currency that I guess it don't really matter.

[Phenidate]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...king-gear-sets

Some is better than all.

[vcjester]

Yeah, they'll have to do something about PVP gear. I mean, frontlines are so much funner than the Wolf Den, but I do see that they need to add something to make wearing PVP gear desirable, like more frontlines. If they had started this whole Frontline thing where moral was included, you would have amazingly long ques because there would be a few select parties owning everyone and the PVE people would get tired of it fast...

[Ultimatecalibur]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...king-gear-sets

Some is better than all.

Those are only Best in Slot. Pretty much every piece of PvP gear with Det on it is in the top 5. And I just noticed an error that was in PvP gear's favor: Lionsmane Belt BiS for Paladins.

[Phenidate]

12 det and nothing else.

Heroes Belt of Fending - Det
Belt of Light - Crit
(Weathered) Noct Belt - Det

Lionsmane may have more Det... at ilvl100. But everything is synced remember,

[Ultimatecalibur]

The gear has Main Stats, a secondary stat and a tertiary stat. The secondary stat is at stat cap and the teritary stat is at roughly 3/4 cap. The Lionsmane Belt will sync down to 10 Det while the Hero's Belt of Fending and (Weathered) Noct Belt will sync down to 7.

Argh, I'm not meaning to argue with you. I would actually like them to replace Morale with Det/Crit/SkS/SpS as appropriate, but I was only trying to point out that the PvP gear is not as bad off as people think it is.

From reevaluating PvP pieces, it seems that both their secondary stat and morale are capped for PvP gear.

[Vittorino]

For frontline sure, all together absolutely not. If it was a perma fix; I would simply use 110 over PvP gear as a healer.

Just doesn't compute; for frontlines sure.

[Epistane]

Here's the thing...

Morale IS determination for pvp.

Nice try though. Take your tradewin gear somewhere else.

Loled hard, all rank 40s must be win traders amirite

edit: Nvm you're from Excalibur I can see why you might think that =((((

[Phenidate]

Fair enough. But my point in this thread is that every single piece of PVP gear has a dead stat in Frontlines PVP.

Edit:
Perhaps Morale could just act as damage reduction in PVP instead of damage boost/reduction.

[Phenidate]

Bear in mind that in PVP, Morale replaces Magic and Physical defense, as well as boosting the damage done to players. In arena it's difficult to survive being nuked down by players in morale gear, without morale gear of your own.