About 3rd Party Softwares

[Oni_Akuma]

Radar is a "hack" and against the rules as it alters the game files and/or adds game files. Parser does neither.

I been working on scripting for a long time since my early age into mmo's.

If files were altered. The launcher would not start the game. Therefore it reads the info from the database and gives approximate locations. Mmo's were and will always meant to have add-ons.

[Elim]

I been working on scripting for a long time since my early age into mmo's.

Mmo's were and will always meant to have add-ons.

Not this one right now. Until it's not against the ToS cheaters using these programs are well...not people I will play with.

Now if SE said it was O.K in the next few days I'd use it. However I'd still dislike all the people who used it before then.

You say that, but a parser is a blatent cheat as well, both are third party tools that read the games data, and both are against the ToS

I didn't say parsers weren't against the ToS. Also I don't use parsers.

[Pixi]

Not this one right now. Until it's not against the ToS cheaters using these programs are well...not people I will play with.

Now if SE said it was O.K in the next few days I'd use it. However I'd still dislike all the people who used it before then.

You *do* know that if the players are abiding by fight club rules, you'd never know that they were using those programs, right? You could already be playing with people who use them.

[Elim]

You *do* know that if the players are abiding by fight club rules, you'd never know that they were using those programs, right? You could already be playing with people who use them.

They're the ones with 7 sands of time from the hunts already and show up within one second of a mob spawning on top of you. :P Pretty easy to spot the cheaters. At least some of them.

There's FCs on my server that brag about cheating all the time. But like I said in another thread, I don't think they'll get banned.

[wicked-one]

There's FCs on my server that brag about cheating all the time. But like I said in another thread, I don't think they'll get banned.

You could at least report them, so GM´s can examine the chatlogs...

if they openly admit it, they will see consequences for this...

problem of this app is, as stated several times, you can´t detect it since most is executed client-side.

And even ppl "showing up the moment it spawned" - well first question, how did you get there before them, and if they suspiciously show up all the time, maybe they are just lucky when touring specific spawn points they wrote down earlier on some piece of paper...

Still only way to say sure - when he makes a confession..

[wicked-one]

It has been long established that any Third Party Software used in Final Fantasy XIV [regardless of platform, situation, or intent] is a violation, and against the Agreed Terms of Agreement.
Evidence found of using such hardware can result in warnings, bans, and even termination.

-GM Shmanington

As this is nothing new or in surprise, most people in the forums maybe are just concerned that they always get just general reply´s, rather than an official statement on how SE is going to handle a certain issue which comes along a certain Add-on or Plug-in...

We all know the Radar-App is against ToS (and morality, which bothers more people than the ToS)... what people want here is to draw attention to this and maybe get some info´s about how this will be handled in future...

[Welsper59]

As this is nothing new or in surprise, most people in the forums maybe are just concerned that they always get just general reply´s, rather than an official statement on how SE is going to handle a certain issue which comes along a certain Add-on or Plug-in...

We all know the Radar-App is against ToS (and morality, which bothers more people than the ToS)... what people want here is to draw attention to this and maybe get some info´s about how this will be handled in future...

From the get-go, I've been saying that they can't give an inch to the player base. If we (generally speaking) are doing something bad, it has to be stopped and/or made an example out of.

Initially, it was RMT with position and gathering hacks... bans were made public. Okay, that's fine. Then there was the parsers, which is something originally seen as harmless but still against ToS, but SE decided to let that go as long as people are quiet about their using it. Mmmm... walking a thin line there, but all right. Then came the infamous win-trading, which resulted in ZERO penalties, and essentially a go-ahead by Yoshi-P himself. Okay, that basically opened the flood gates and the line has been crossed, it's open season from here on.

A resulting outlook is that SE will overlook everything unless you are botting or position hacking, which is still pretty damn easy to get away with. I have some experience with position hack programs/apps, as I've used/tested those before on various games, including SE ones, and have never had any bans or anything. It's unreasonable to think they will catch everyone that cheats, but they just can't let it be so blatantly acceptable to cheat the system. For the record, I haven't done anything against ToS on this game, so anyone of authority reading this would just be wasting their time checking.

[Elim]

From the get-go, I've been saying that they can't give an inch to the player base.

Cheaters gunna cheat.

SE should design EVERYTHING with cheaters in mind.

[DoubleT]

As this is nothing new or in surprise, most people in the forums maybe are just concerned that they always get just general reply´s, rather than an official statement on how SE is going to handle a certain issue which comes along a certain Add-on or Plug-in...

We all know the Radar-App is against ToS (and morality, which bothers more people than the ToS)... what people want here is to draw attention to this and maybe get some info´s about how this will be handled in future...

he told you how it will be handled in the future, the same way SE has always handled cheating since xi, the same thing the GM's come here an say in everyone of these threads, the same thing that the ToS says, if you get caught you will be warned/banned/terminated.

[Thaliss]

he told you how it will be handled in the future, the same way SE has always handled cheating since xi, the same thing the GM's come here an say in everyone of these threads, the same thing that the ToS says, if you get caught you will be warned/banned/terminated.

I am sure it is being investigated. Probably the banhammer will hit hard (even if it is temporary) like when people had too much gil very fast at beginning of the game and the rewards obtained removed.
Not all the culprits will be caught but I do believe it will come.