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    Wolfram_Alexandros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oni_Akuma View Post
    I would actually like to see the official message Square Enix give him, rather than take his word for it.
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    They answered it long ago. They're not allowed.

    Finding out who are using them are completely a different story though.
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    Yeah i know. I'm just reading up the articles since I'm at work. Just trying to get this controversy straightened out. I added another link before you quoted me.

    http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...42463120004610

    here's another quote from the website


    Zam a major gaming article company gave it the ok that Square Enix allowed the program to be used. And has been approved by the department but most of the Square Enix workers are probably not up-to-date on the changes from that departments decision
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    Last edited by Oni_Akuma; 07-14-2014 at 12:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oni_Akuma View Post
    Yeah i know. I'm just reading up the articles since I'm at work. Just trying to get this controversy straightened out. I added another link before you quoted me.

    http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...42463120004610

    here's another quote from the website


    Zam a major gaming article company gave it the ok that Square Enix allowed the program to be used. And has been approved by the department but most of the Square Enix workers are probably not up-to-date on the changes from that departments decision
    That was also put up way before the program was in the state it is now. If permission -was- given, it was given way before the map part was added (way before overlays of any kind were available with the program), and back when it was only able to give basic information about damage/healing/etc.
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    SE's stance on this issue is simple.

    We won't ban anyone who uses it that doesn't blatantly go around telling people they do because we can't.

    Pretty much what everyone has been saying so far, Fight Club.
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    It's pretty cut and dry, and this is the newest (I believe) official statement on the subject:

    "...we would like to remind players that using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action."

    From:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...948.1402212480
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    Player Tsuwu's Avatar
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    Anyone else feel like this will be much less of a "grievous injustice on the rights of humanity" in about 3 week's time, and there's just a liiiitle bit of dramarama going around?

    It reads from memory addresses, fully client side; pretty much undetectable. SE can't really do anything.
    If it offends you enough, report. Otherwise, do other content or go do something else.

    I still don't understand why people don't know that getting out of the chair is an option.
    If all you can do is hunt, and it's broken by a third party tool, either get it and play hard ball or wait.
    Sucks, but so does a great many other things.
    Fortunately, you all have options on your time. Exercise them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuwu View Post
    If all you can do is hunt, and it's broken by a third party tool, either get it and play hard ball or wait.
    Sucks, but so does a great many other things.
    But - unfortunately - the carrot is too delicious.

    It load´s of huge amounts of Myth -> a great increase in my novus working** (and those who work on Animus)
    Hunting Marks and Books -> Oil/Sand´s of Time, farm your i110 Equip in no Time...

    so if you want to enhance your Gear, this is the fastest and best way to do it ... if there werent always people to a Mob the minute it spawned across the map...

    (i jumped from 2 Alex a day to 5 i got yesterday - without runnin BF over and over)

    - but it´s not Hunt Topic at all, it´s a topic about people use something which gives an advantage over others, and that is in any kind of game with mulitplayer aspect a no go.

    it´s not even a FF-XIV Topic, as the world is full of guy´s who always claim everything for them first, leave what´s left when they are finished...

    alone on the hunt, i could write my master work on sociology...
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    Last edited by wicked-one; 07-14-2014 at 06:00 PM.

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    On the policy of third part programs, what is SE's policy on remote desktop? I would like to be able to craft whilst commuting, but not if it would breach TOS. I assume it should be OK given that you're still in control of what's happening and really it's no different to a PS Vita.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kydi View Post
    On the policy of third part programs, what is SE's policy on remote desktop? I would like to be able to craft whilst commuting, but not if it would breach TOS. I assume it should be OK given that you're still in control of what's happening and really it's no different to a PS Vita.
    My guess is it would be okay. In the announcement I quoted they said nothing that another player can't normally do, and given that the PS has the Vita option, and all/most PCs can use remote desktop, it can be done normally.
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