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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    If you see your 3 opponents running at you in a bikini, some PvP gear, and a sundress, which one would be the easier kill?
    Well they don't call it military deception for no reason..it's like a bunch of well trained soldiers dressed up as simple merchants..and why would you attack any of the three if they're coming after you. Running away would be the logical thing here.
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    Except you cannot deceive anyone...? Every enemy of yours has its job written on the top of his head regardless his/her equipment? What are you rambling about...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Except you cannot deceive anyone...? Every enemy of yours has its job written on the top of his head regardless his/her equipment? What are you rambling about...?
    The person is basically saying how people attack others based on how their gear looks. Someone that looks like an ilvl100 is more of a threat than someone that appears to be an ilvl55 or something. Or attack the one that looks weakest first..which would be the ilvl55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Except you cannot deceive anyone...? Every enemy of yours has its job written on the top of his head regardless his/her equipment? What are you rambling about...?
    So what about a situation where you're fighting two people of the same job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravehill View Post
    So what about a situation where you're fighting two people of the same job?
    They are still going to be synced to lvl 80? What does it matter if someone's wearing CT gear or Soldiery Gear? The person who's wearing CT gear might be attempting brutal SCoB and be a flawless healer, if you want to deceive you are going to deceive anyway???
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    The only reason I think SE might have done this is because they might have the idea to add a nonsynced level frontlines in the future if the current frontlines is a succeess. If it is, a lot of people will be running with i100 PVP gear due to playing frontlines nonstop and reaching the PVP level cap. If that ever happens it would be reasonable not to allow glamour there, and it would be awkward at the same time to allow glamour on the ilvl 80 synced frontlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Well they don't call it military deception for no reason..it's like a bunch of well trained soldiers dressed up as simple merchants..and why would you attack any of the three if they're coming after you. Running away would be the logical thing here.
    While I agree there is logic to deception I feel the argument isnt as apt to FFXIV since deception in every case given so far has a cost FFXIV wont care about. If you dress up in only merchant garb you've lost serious defense. If you dress up with merchant garb over your military garb you've gained extra weight. These actions have cost while FFXIV's if allowed would have none (minus maybe the cost of glamour'ing in the first place).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    While I agree there is logic to deception I feel the argument isnt as apt to FFXIV since deception in every case given so far has a cost FFXIV wont care about. If you dress up in only merchant garb you've lost serious defense. If you dress up with merchant garb over your military garb you've gained extra weight. These actions have cost while FFXIV's if allowed would have none (minus maybe the cost of glamour'ing in the first place).
    Hm..true..very true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Hm..true..very true.
    You're too amicable, I give you like. lol

    Although if you want to see OP deception, in Dark Souls 1 / 2, there is an ability to hide your left and right hand items. So OP. Perhaps there will be an ability you can learn from rogue that can add some fun pvp deception (takes up skill slot, thus balanced in some manor).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-13-2014 at 06:26 AM. Reason: humble -> amicable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    While I agree there is logic to deception I feel the argument isnt as apt to FFXIV since deception in every case given so far has a cost FFXIV wont care about. If you dress up in only merchant garb you've lost serious defense. If you dress up with merchant garb over your military garb you've gained extra weight. These actions have cost while FFXIV's if allowed would have none (minus maybe the cost of glamour'ing in the first place).
    This isn't reality, it's a game in a fantasy world with that even has the word fantasy in the title! The merchant garb could be magical or enchanted in some manner for all you know. Also consider that in the Japanese version, they're called mirage prisms unlike our version where it's known as glamour prisms.
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