You have enough casual/fluff content now, how about that endgame progression SEnix?

[TestSubject09]

To bring this back on track, SE didn't design this game to be a ONE class game, therefore, neither is their end-game content. You are done with end-game for one class? Excellent !! Now go build up your 18 other classes.

jc

Well, apologies everyone, I originally hit my daily post cap (this forum has the worst restrictions I have ever seen in any forum ever...)

I don't know where to begin truly... but I had to quote you.

Your response... is bad, its the same horrible excuses Guild Wars 2 fanbosy made "oh this game isnt about endgame now you just gotta grind every other class up to max!" .... you can do that in ANY MMO EVER. your skill is not dependant on your classes leveled. your logic is incredibly flawed. just stop. its embarrassing.

[TestSubject09]

If there's no shiny gear, I'm not doing it! Wahhh!

If you can't grasp the concept that people want HARD 24 mans that have variety and try to shove coil (savage) (something NOBODY EVER ASKED FOR) as an acceptable substitute then so be it. also, all of the casuals and hardcore want gear/stat progression alike ... and challenges should be rewarded... a title is rubbish.

but yea, you sound exactly like the guild wars 2 fanboys that said "oh you can run fractals 100x to up the difficulty ..." oh fantaastic..... run 4 mini areas over and over forever with a slight tune adjustment SOUND FAMILIAR?

seeing the same mistakes repeated. uits why TWITCH doesn't give a damn about this game.... and most of the PvE'rs looking for something more than daily grind ands 4 turns coil for 6 months have gone.

simply put... the end-game choices are awful, your justifications against those that want MORE DEPTH to it are bad.

[silentwindfr]

exept he is partially right, do your jobs as monk in a fight will be quite different than the one of a white mage or a tank.
indeed with the scripted fight, the difference are not that important, but if you try to play your class at the max, it will be complicated to do it in any situation without learn some tricks.

however, i must say, they bring content every 3 month, but i think the trouble come from your own consuption of the game. the hardcore gaming is always a trouble for a mmorpg! and will be forever since is not possible to please them in anyway.

ps: and insult people everytime will not make your point more valid. very often content at 24 player are way easier than 8-10-15 player content, why? because you have less the right to the error in this setup, in bigger setup you always have people that slacks or do shit.

finally, like said before, don't expect a change of the Raid before an expansion and i doubt they will really bring hard content for 24 player anyway.

[TestSubject09]

I think what alot of you fail to grasp is. the lure of large scale PvE isn;t just the difficulty of the mechanics, its the difficulty of organisation and overcoming those mechanics with a larger team. yet you can't see this side of, why are you so hell bent on trying to find twisted justifications to peg people into certain ideals to suit WHY something shouldn't exist?

Anyone here saying "Savage has a challenge, hardcore raiders clearly don't want a challenge, they want loots!" .... yet 99% of the content in this game rewards you with something.... with no challenge too...

Everything added in 2.3 is easy(ish) ... it all rewards you... for camping, for grinding.... the dungeons are no harder than the last. yet this is ok justification.

ugh, headache inducing... truly. kill 2 A class NMs and you have a ilvl 90 piece of gear.... and oils to get gear levels you didn't earn with any challenge, just camp and grind... and you complain about US?

[silentwindfr]

no one complain exept you... it's like this since the start, when the 2.1 did come out we had people do exactly what you do. and someone will do exactly the same at the 2.5 and 2.7.... they are filling patch that allows the mass to stuff themself for what come at the next patch...

[Andevom]

The number of ellipses in these posts is staggering.

[Karnyboy]

Hai guyz, my pixel penis is THIS 8=============================================D big!!!1111!!



Maybe it's because I'm old, but the amount of complaining on these boards in regards to content, etc are because a lot of you can't log out and go do something else with your life. Game is not going anywhere and I highly doubt that you will be the "first" in anything in this day and age, SOMEONE will be better than you, you can guarantee it.

Content is only out of date for those that can't see the bigger picture.

I was the first one to do a quest back in the Asheron's Call days, submit the pics for it and throw in a little strategy guide, and you know what? Nobody cares anymore and nobody cared then except me. So the sooner a lot of you start looking at the game as optional entertainment and less like a chore (I HAVE to grind ATMA, I HAVE to complete Coil, I HAVE to cap Soldiery every week) the happier you will be. You have friends in the game? GOOD! They will not care to help a friend out with old content as you deem it if the moment did arise.

Why? The answer is simple, because friends like playing together. It's not about being the best between friends, it's about having fun and succeeding with friends.

[Dwill]

Hai guyz, my pixel penis is THIS 8=============================================D big!!!1111!!



Maybe it's because I'm old, but the amount of complaining on these boards in regards to content, etc are because a lot of you can't log out and go do something else with your life. Game is not going anywhere and I highly doubt that you will be the "first" in anything in this day and age, SOMEONE will be better than you, you can guarantee it.

Content is only out of date for those that can't see the bigger picture.

I was the first one to do a quest back in the Asheron's Call days, submit the pics for it and throw in a little strategy guide, and you know what? Nobody cares anymore and nobody cared then except me. So the sooner a lot of you start looking at the game as optional entertainment and less like a chore (I HAVE to grind ATMA, I HAVE to complete Coil, I HAVE to cap Soldiery every week) the happier you will be. You have friends in the game? GOOD! They will not care to help a friend out with old content as you deem it if the moment did arise.

Why? The answer is simple, because friends like playing together. It's not about being the best between friends, it's about having fun and succeeding with friends.

I swear, this thread is a breeding ground for sweeping generalization and illogical assumptions.

This is your definition of fun and is since fun is highly subjective, you can't apply it as a general rule to everyone.

[Karnyboy]

Call it what you will, but all I see is bitching and moaning from players like yourself who blame someone else.

[marewa]

――The third major patch, Patch 2.3, was released on July 8th. Based on impressions, it appears as if Patch 2.2 was catered to the hardcore users, while 2.3 is designed for the casual players. Was this deliberate?

To a certain extent, yes. Just as we have continued to implement the "Echo" in our patches, not everything is always focused on the latest end-game. But whenever the maximum item level is raised in a patch, we do need to include powerful items and the appropriately-difficult contents to match. And in the following patch, we'll want to fill in the power gap created by this increase with a variety of fun contents, such as what we did in 2.3. That is the basic patch cycle with FFXIV.