Hunts were a terrible/irresponsible idea

[Reynhart]

Ok, I'm not saying that your complains are wrong because I haven't done any hunt for now.

But the thing I don't understand is : People asked for "open world Notorious Monsters" for months...in a game with no "claiming lock" on monster...what exactly were you expecting ?
And worse, if they put lock on hunt monster, you wouldn't even gain the small fraction of the reward that you can have today.

And for good measure, let me remind you what "open world Notorious Monsters" was, in FFXI: Horrible pop time and/or conditions, struggle to be the 1st to claim the mob, and very low chance to get any reward. Was that really better ?

[OPneedNerfs]

Ok, I'm not saying that your complains are wrong because I haven't done any hunt for now.

But the thing I don't understand is : People asked for "open world Notorious Monsters" for months...in a game with no "claiming lock" on monster...what exactly were you expecting ?
And worse, if they put lock on hunt monster, you wouldn't even gain the small fraction of the reward that you can have today.

And for good measure, let me remind you what "open world Notorious Monsters" was, in FFXI: Horrible pop time and/or conditions, struggle to be the 1st to claim the mob, and very low chance to get any reward. Was that really better ?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Reynhart]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Clearly not.
"We want something wrong"+"We give you the something wrong you want" = "We don't want that something wrong"
A reaction I'd like to see would be "We were wrong to want that something" but no player will admit that

[HumsterMKX]

Clearly not.
"We want something wrong"+"We give you the something wrong you want" = "We don't want that something wrong"
A reaction I'd like to see would be "We were wrong to want that something" but no player will admit that

For me, it is the Allied seals that is the sore point.

Daily marks, for mobs, you get 1 seal, 2 of tem need FATE pops, for 2 seals. The FATES hardly spawn and totally RNG. I actually camped 1 on the first day, 3 hours later 2 seals.

Now for the weekly ones you get a bonus of 20 seals IF you manage to catch its spawn timing and location and IF you can get a tag on it for contribution.

Now look at the rewards, for GC body, 1000seals. If ypu doing solely by hunt board 7seals per day, give and take 80seals per week. How long does it take to get it?

[Morningstar1337]

Clearly not.
"We want something wrong"+"We give you the something wrong you want" = "We don't want that something wrong"
A reaction I'd like to see would be "We were wrong to want that something" but no player will admit that

Specifically "We were wrong to want easier endgame gear." Because I think that is the core of the problem. If this is for the casual playerbase, why did they add Sands/oil/Alexandrite? You'd think they would have waited until the power creep made it so obsolete that few would want that except for vanity or to catch up.

[HumsterMKX]

Ok, I'm not saying that your co

And for good measure, let me remind you what "open world Notorious Monsters" was, in FFXI: Horrible pop time and/or conditions, struggle to be the 1st to claim the mob, and very low chance to get any reward. Was that really better ?

Before you get started with FFXI. Take a good look at what the mobs in both games drop.

Find me 1 of the current FFXIV mob drop equal to Leaping Boots, Peacock charm, Karken club, Joyucse, etc.

BOTH are 2 totally different systems. FFXI drops are individual some what powerful items or mats.

FFXIV ones drop Allied seals and rare times drop stuff you can get from the said seals.

[Reynhart]

FFXIV ones drop Allied seals and rare times drop stuff you can get from the said seals.

Allied seals that allows you to buy items to upgrade your gear to the BEST one in game.

It's the same except that you remove the "random drop" part.

Sorry, but if the rewards for the Hunt were not as interesting as those drops in FFXI, no one would participate.

EDIT : Actually, it's not the same...in FFXI, after the long time it took to make one NM pop, only ONE party could ever participate in the fight, and for the most part, only ONE person could get a reward.
I think the Hunt is far more better, from this perspective

[Gramul]

Before you get started with FFXI. Take a good look at what the mobs in both games drop.

Find me 1 of the current FFXIV mob drop equal to Leaping Boots, Peacock charm, Karken club, Joyucse, etc.

BOTH are 2 totally different systems. FFXI drops are individual some what powerful items or mats.

FFXIV ones drop Allied seals and rare times drop stuff you can get from the said seals.

Also, it is a hell of a lot faster to get around in this game. Anyone can get anywhere in a matter of a few minutes at most.

[Zaygr]

Too bad most marks die within the first minute of the fight starting.

[Sapphic]

Also, it is a hell of a lot faster to get around in this game. Anyone can get anywhere in a matter of a few minutes at most.

Shame the marks die in a few seconds ^^

Agree with others HP is way too low. Soloable NMs should be daily ones, elite marks, none should be soloable imo. Bs should have around 100-200k HP.

Biggest problem (player side totally) is people form up for them at the spawn and do a countdown (3 minutes till pull) to allow others to get there then you get a random pulling and it getting zerged to get rewards before people get there.