Crafter=Botter (90%)

[Zephir]

"He's saying that a real friend wouldn't sit back and let their friend do something that would cause themselves (or others) harm"

Shit i better ring all my friends up and tell them to stop going out and drinking.

Not to drink..but thy must take the bus and not use the car if drunk^^

I don't know law that say "you can't drink"

[Arch_Blegan]

Ever had a friend who smoked or maybe an over weight friend, or maybe a friend who speeds in his car? All of those things can kill you if my friends do them I dont stop being friends with them, that would just be stupid.

If something grows out of the ground, I don't see why it can't be consumed excluding poisonous plants of course; I don't associate with the morbidly obese; I only speak up if the person driving also happens to be dumb.

You people are generalizing everything to make it simple for yourselves to understand. You jump to polar ends because it's easier for you to make your points without having to take the time to think about your stance. The bottom line here is that cleptos (what's actually being discussed) have no ethics and I wouldn't associate myself with them and anyone who would is a fool.

[Zephir]

The law where he said it's not illegal to download but it is to sell it is most likely incorrect.

The fact is, it's almost a global law that you cannot "distribute" it, doesn't matter if you sell it or not. Guess what? Using a torrent distributes, since while you download you're also uploading to other downloaders.

If you torrent, no matter where you live, you're committing an illegal act. Doesn't matter if you sell it.

megaupload? rapidshare?

Again here you can't be punished if you download mp3 becouse you want to hear music...but if you sell copied CD yes you can be punished....this is law in my country....(about piracy)

[Arch_Blegan]

"He's saying that a real friend wouldn't sit back and let their friend do something that would cause themselves (or others) harm"

Shit i better ring all my friends up and tell them to stop going out and drinking.

Drinking only causes harm to people who can't handle their alcohol.

[TonyMontana]

Drinking only causes harm to people who can't handle their alcohol.

Wow really? You truely think that?

[Nero]

megaupload? rapidshare?

Again here you can't be punished if you download mp3 becouse you want to hear music...but if you sell copied CD yes you can be punished....this is law in my country....(about piracy)

Im still wondering in which country you live... Just a hint.. Rapidshare, Megaupload and all others are just giving out Space to Upload and Download Stuff. You should read their agreements... on ALL of those Sites they say that it IS illegal to download copyright'd Stuff.

[Zephir]

Probably imy bad english is the problem..sorry..

I really care about botting that in my opinion ruin this game to all fair players...

I probably want to report botter if i can.....but not becouse they aren't my friends..but becouse i'm "sure" that they ruin my game experience.....

Discussion about real world is a sort of OT..but really i don't want that a friend start with thefting and do deeper and deeper......Probably if i call the police (after try to talk with my friend) he hate me....I KNOW...but at least i'm happy probably stop his career in criminal world before it's too late and he can commit worst thing or encounter the wrong victim...(a jeweler that shot him when he try to steal)

I'm not this cynic...to report a frind only for lol and without good intention....

And don't geenralize...i don't call the police for trivial things.

[Arch_Blegan]

Wow really? You truely think that?

When it comes to physical/mental impairment causing harm, yes. You could bring up the liver if you like, but if the person isn't getting blasted drunk that shouldn't be a problem.

[Zephir]

Funny you say that laws have anything to do with ethics. Laws are not anything close to synonymous with ethics. I am probably the most ethical person here, you demonstrate that all you are is an asshole.

Don't worry though I'm an asshole too. Perhaps just a bit more ethical than you.



It's funny because out of the laws you listed yourself they sound similar to the laws of the countries where it's illegal to view lolicon, which you said it's legal. You'd be surprised what laws really are in a lot of places.

Take Canada for example. Here, piracy isn't much of a problem, we don't give a shit about it and the police don't arrest people who do it, even though it's illegal. Bring in a single page of a lolicon manga though, and you'll be thrown in jail for over a year and also have to submit your DNA to go on the national sex offenders registry.

Italy.....only real pedoporn image (or video) bring you to jail for a lot of time (and probably you don't exit from the jail on your legs)

Drawed reproduction (like loli manga) don't count as pedopornographic crime....

That's the law here....

[Arch_Blegan]

Funny you say that laws have anything to do with ethics. Laws are not anything close to synonymous with ethics. I am probably the most ethical person here, you demonstrate that all you are is an asshole.

Don't worry though I'm an asshole too. Perhaps just a bit more ethical than you.

"I'm the most ethical person here." Wow, you actually said that. Kudos to you, lol.

And I never said ethics and laws are the same, must be another one of your literacy miscues.