Crafter=Botter (90%)

[Ilean]

it does not matter how easy or hard or boring something is. if it has levels to gain people that are botting now will bot regardless of how fun it is. they bot to get ahead or to keep from having to go farm their own materials or to have items to sell. levels and gil are the reason for botting and either way the bot program will outdo someone doing it themselves. there is no way a person can keep up with a bot running round the clock. it never sleeps and is always churning away.

yaya, we heard you the first time.

I still believe that if SE found a way to make crafting some sort of FUN minigame instead of a menu-choice fest people would bot less.

It's not about making it more complex so programming bots gets harder, but about making people want to do it.

Think all those silly iphone 3-bucks games, steal the gameplay of 30 or so and adapt them into crafting. Yes it's a lot of work but at least crafting would equal playing.

[darkstarpoet1]

yaya, we heard you the first time.

I still believe that if SE found a way to make crafting some sort of FUN minigame instead of a menu-choice fest people would bot less.

It's not about making it more complex so programming bots gets harder, but about making people want to do it.

Think all those silly iphone 3-bucks games, steal the gameplay of 30 or so and adapt them into crafting. Yes it's a lot of work but at least crafting would equal playing.

yaya, i heard you the first time as well.

i still believe that no matter how fun they made the process people that bot now would bot then. crafting has bots just like battle and gathering is in this game and every game has bots no matter how fun the game is.

if fun was the criteria then why did xi have alot of botters since so many liked that game? why does wow have it even though it has alot of people that love it? the reason is because fun has nothing to do with getting ahead without any effort. people want the easy way out without having to work for it and some go to the extremes like cheating and using bots to get there.

people bot to get ahead and the best way to curve botters is to bring out the ban hammer on them and get them out of the game. i just don't see that happening until the servers become more populated and the game goes p2p.

[Arcell]

i still believe that no matter how fun they made the process people that bot now would bot then. crafting has bots just like battle and gathering is in this game and every game has bots no matter how fun the game is.

Hate to admit it but he's right here. No matter how fun it actually is, people will be regardless. Some might bot LESS but you will never get rid of it. Some people would rather have a program play the game for them, that's just how it is.

This game's crafting system has the potential to be bot unfriendly. Because you can get through most synths just spamming Standard it makes botting possible. If you actually had to pay attention to the light and choose different options based on that like I imagine it was supposed to be then botting would be pretty tough.

[Winterclaw]

Well, you could do away with levels and money altogether and let your equipment be based on things you've achieved in the game and story completion rather than grinding away... but I guess that's crazy talk.

[indira]

alot of people bot regardless of what they tell you. come on people had lv50 crafts a week into the games launch . i wouldent be suprised if theirs people with all crafts at lv50.

only thing i can see theses people are married and you spouse is bringing in the money, you have no life/job, retired, RMT, botting.

[TheVedis]

alot of people bot regardless of what they tell you. come on people had lv50 crafts a week into the games launch . i wouldent be suprised if theirs people with all crafts at lv50.

only thing i can see theses people are married and you spouse is bringing in the money, you have no life/job, retired, RMT, botting.

it wasnt that fast they had them, it took about a month before people hit them in crafts, and it was specific ones with sorta bugged recipes that got nerfed

[Acerimmer]

Ger a few bongs up ya, slap the music on, crafting is alright.

[giftforce]

It's possible to have multiple 50s with fair gaming, but I know many people who bot and nobody seems to care. It annoys me too. But perhaps SE should have tried making crafting-progression less boring?

[Alise]

Any mindless/brainless can rank up crafting, that is how bot exist.
SE should change the mini-game to make it use more brain, I m sure bot can not play puzzle game that random every times. So just make it puzzle and all will be good. (card game, testis, whatever, but please no laggy-silly one like parley)

So I agree on the part that the system encourage bot, However I disagree on the part that people must bot to get R50. Other people just simply can do what you can't, you gotta admit this.

[WillRiker]

Any mindless/brainless can rank up crafting, that is how bot exist.
SE should change the mini-game to make it use more brain, I m sure bot can not play puzzle game that random every times. So just make it puzzle and all will be good. (card game, testis, whatever, but please no laggy-silly one like parley)

So I agree on the part that the system encourage bot, However I disagree on the part that people must bot to get R50. Other people just simply can do what you can't, you gotta admit this.

If you can do it, an algorithm can be made. Once you have an algorithm, a bot can be made.

The only difference would be in the complexity of program.