PLD Cross Class Skills

[Martin_Arcainess]

I'll add my post now

Well my Main is a PLD and I do agree that Stone skin is the best Cross skill for PLD. As I find it handy to cast for many reasons.

1. helps Healers preserve their MP.
2. Reduce the amount of damage I take thus less healing the healers need to do so more MP saved!
3. Good to cast on MT if your OT espcialyl in T5 when you see DS comming up. might even save that Tanks life.

Bloodbath, what I do with that is combine it in a macro with Fight or Flight to boost the effectivness of Bloodbath and they do have the same CD.

Fracture is good when you can't currently hit the enemy but it dose do very little damage.

The only thing better then Stone Skin is foresight, it just the same as Ramparts but with a longer CD.

[Jarvix]

Cleanses are a healer specific mechanic. Giving Esuna to a non-healer would be like giving Provoke to a DPS: it's an ability that is not part of their role.

LOL. There are DPS Classes that can get Provoke as well as Flash (I think). If I remember right it's the Lancers that can cross it.

[Kitru]

LOL. There are DPS Classes that can get Provoke as well as Flash (I think). If I remember right it's the Lancers that can cross it.

The classes all have every cross class ability available to them. You can get a MAR with Blizz 2, Protect, and EfE. Jobs are the only ones restricted to specific classes for cross-class. The only reason that every *class* has access to Provoke is because the devs decided that WAR would have to devote one of its CC slots to it; no non-tank *job* gets it, and you're not really *supposed* to be using a class beyond level 30 anyways (and it's not likely that any non-tank job will ever have access to GLA cross-class because of this; well, also because the entire GLA CC suite is basically only useful for tanking).

[Tyrial]

The only thing better then Stone Skin is foresight, it just the same as Ramparts but with a longer CD.

Foresight is not even remotely close to Rampart and is in no way better than Stone Skin.

Rampart is a flat 20% damage reduction. Foresight is a 20% defense increase.

[Kitru]

Rampart is a flat 20% damage reduction. Foresight is a 20% defense increase.

To explain why exactly Foresight is so bad, 20% defense is basically a 7-10% reduction in physical damage taken, which means it does absolutely jack and squat for magic. Rampart is a 20% reduction in *all* damage taken. Rampart applies to all damage and is about 2-3 times more effective.

[kukurumei]

To explain why exactly Foresight is so bad, 20% defense is basically a 7-10% reduction in physical damage taken, which means it does absolutely jack and squat for magic. Rampart is a 20% reduction in *all* damage taken. Rampart applies to all damage and is about 2-3 times more effective.

I would say closer to 5%. But it's better then nothing. Feeling sadder as a warrior, but as for PLD, it's good to have. Most of 2.2 content are physical which is a far cry from 2.1 magic frenzy. So foresight is pretty useful again.

[Kitru]

I would say closer to 5%. But it's better then nothing.

The natural variation in damage is +/-5%. Foresight is big enough that the lowest damage you'll take while it's up is higher than the highest damage you'd take while it's down. As such, it's a fair deal bigger than 5%.

[Morningstar1337]

LOL. There are DPS Classes that can get Provoke as well as Flash (I think). If I remember right it's the Lancers that can cross it.

I think BLMs can get it as well.

Anyway my current cross classes are cure for myself and I plan on using Raise in the event that all the healers on my party are KO'd. Not sure what the other cross-classes sould be (and where to find them)

[Zakalwe]

I think BLMs can get it as well.

Anyway my current cross classes are cure for myself and I plan on using Raise in the event that all the healers on my party are KO'd. Not sure what the other cross-classes sould be (and where to find them)

PLD raise is out of combat only, so has limited usefulness. That said, I just swapped out cure for raise. I never used cure and at least with raise I can use it as a good Samaritan when I'm out and about doing landscape stuff.

But yea, PLD cross class skills are meh except for stone skin. It is not a situation like with WARs who get access to those two great PLD tanking skills, provoke and flash.

[Morningstar1337]

PLD raise is out of combat only, so has limited usefulness. That said, I just swapped out cure for raise. I never used cure and at least with raise I can use it as a good Samaritan when I'm out and about doing landscape stuff.

But yea, PLD cross class skills are meh except for stone skin. It is not a situation like with WARs who get access to those two great PLD tanking skills, provoke and flash.

And here I am trying to level CNJ for the enhanced raise Thinking that PLD can use it. (Though I was gonna level CNJ anyway somewere along the line) What level do they learn Stoneskin?