Soldiery Weapons: What's your opinion?

[Dwill]

I was looking to get some insight on what people think of some of the soldiery weapons. I'm specifically looking at the weapons for my alt jobs (as I'm working on Novus for my main) and with the Allagan tome dropping in CT2, I'm considering making a purchase in the future and was hoping to get feedback on the following:

Book of Spades (SMN) crit and determination (seems awesome)

Book of Spades is BiS until High Allagan or Novus.

[Sylkis]

One situation would be that death sentence/ravensbeak is coming and a def buff and/or stoneskin was missed, and nothing but a crit Aldo is enough to save them. In that case, 1-2 weapon damage won't help.

If you and everyone are doing it right then any weapon is good enough, because you wouldn't encounter that situation.

Whether I'm right or wrong, 1-2 weapon damage or 40 crit isn't worth the time arguing.
Get the other weapons, I'm out of here.

[lololink]

One situation would be that death sentence/ravensbeak is coming and a def buff and/or stoneskin was missed, and nothing but a crit Aldo is enough to save them. In that case, 1-2 weapon damage won't help.

If you and everyone are doing it right then any weapon is good enough, because you wouldn't encounter that situation.

Whether I'm right or wrong, 1-2 weapon damage or 40 crit isn't worth the time arguing.
Get the other weapons, I'm out of here.

It's all luck anyway, you can't win a fight if you rely on luck. Or maybe once or twice, but skill>luck.

[Ghasto]

Book of Diamonds is awful, don't even make eye contact with it.
High Allagan > Novus > Allagan > Diamonds > Animus/Weathered/Tidal

[lololink]

Book of Diamonds is awful, don't even make eye contact with it.
High Allagan > Novus > Allagan > Diamonds > Animus/Weathered/Tidal

I love how people over-estimate these secondary stats.

[Ghasto]

I love how people over-estimate these secondary stats.

I love how people think healing throughput is as important as crits tactical value on SCH.

[lololink]

I love how people think healing throughput is as important as crits tactical value on SCH.

I'd rather bet on my healing power than on luck. Crits are good, but i don't think throwing away a weapon and lose precious main stats and healing power from the weapon is worth the 1% crit chance i'd get.

[Felessan]

BRD has the Elfin bow.

For Bards - High Allagan>Novus(Crit+Det)>Rosenbogen>Tidal>Weathered Rosenbogen>Wave
+2 Upgrade in base damage just trumps everything else. Novus is better then rosenbogen, but pricetag is a bit high
Accuracy is manageable problems as you really need only around 480 acc to have reasonable amount of misses that does not yet lower your dps.

Main Stats > All Others

Not really. As secondary stats have different conversion rates to main stats, on certain occasions you can lower your overall dps.
For example - equipping bards 100 hat over 90 AF hat drops dps by ~2-3 points as +3 to dex does not compensate switching from crit on AF to skillspeed on weathered hat.

[Donjo]

I agree with most of what you're saying, but they are just asking which weapon would be best for when they eventually get a Tome, not whether they should get a Tome weapon instead of Animus, Novus etc.

The answer to this question is "get whichever one you have the opportunity to get first"

If you want to consider 110 weapons too, the Novus might be the best option of one has a lot of time on their hands and doesn't see themselves clearing Turn 8 anytime soon.

However, Daily Hunts in 2.3 are allegedly going to provide both Sands and Oils as possible rewards, so upgrading that Soldiery Weapon might not be so difficult after all...

I love how people think healing throughput is as important as crits tactical value on SCH.

First, unless I'm bad at math, we should probably stop thinking of 39 crit or so as 1% Crit Rate, as that 1% isn't the only thing in play here. The fact is that Crit Rate has diminishing returns.

Going from 0% to 1%, your chance to crit increases by infinite.
Going from 1% to 2%, your chance to crit increases by 100%.
Going from 2% to 3%, your chance to crit increases by 50%
...
Going from 18% to 19%, your chance to crit increases by 5.3%.
Going from 19% to 20%, your chance to crit increases by 5%.
...
Going from 98% to 99%, your chance to crit increases by 1%.

Every percentage point increase gives a smaller benefit than the last. Once you're hovering around 20%, you can really afford to lose one without magically losing 95% of your effectiveness. Critical Hits are nice, but they shouldn't be used as a crutch. Even Scholars should learn to trust higher consistent numbers more than RNG.

[Askarya]

I'd say get the weapon for the alt class you like best (except for the Book of Diamonds maybe because it's really bad).

You also need to keep in mind that you get a rather easy upgrade from 100 to 110 once you're able to clear t8 or in about (only a guess) 6 weeks once they implent sands in ct2.

And as long as you aren't working on Novus for a class the sol. weapon will end up as BiS until HA (for dps classes atleast, after you get a sand for it ofc). So it'll be definitly a good investment for the future.