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    I couldn't think of a way. The only way to reclaim an extra step would be to drop a touch, which drastically lowers the finished % of quality thanks to Inner Quiet being weaker. I think my suggestion would be to get Ingenuity II anyway, even if it is a grind, as it's essential to three star crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    I couldn't think of a way. The only way to reclaim an extra step would be to drop a touch, which drastically lowers the finished % of quality thanks to Inner Quiet being weaker. I think my suggestion would be to get Ingenuity II anyway, even if it is a grind, as it's essential to three star crafting.
    I replaced some of the basic touches with hasty touches, saving a lot of CP. At the end when I had the item at 100% or close to it, I still had enough CP for another Manipulation and a regular Ingenuity which let me finish the craft!

    There is no doubt I will have all my crafters to 50, but I just wanted those artisan's spectacles in a rush for some reason so I had to think outside the box until the leve allowances start building back up. I should actually have enough today to take my BSM to 50, giving me the last piece I need for your one and two-star rotations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    get Ingenuity II anyway, even if it is a grind, as it's essential to three star crafting.
    It's really not essential for 3 star crafts ^^

    I don't use it at all for my method.

    It's more use than the LTW lvl50 skill... but not one I'd suggest rushing.

    ARM lvl50 on the other hand, I would make my priority if I were Evian.

    Piece by Piece I personally would say is Essential for 3 star crafting with a very high HQ rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    It's really not essential for 3 star crafts ^^

    I don't use it at all for my method.

    It's more use than the LTW lvl50 skill... but not one I'd suggest rushing.
    How many steps do you finish your synths in, including Piece by Piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    How many steps do you finish your synths in, including Piece by Piece?
    30-60 usually lol.

    But I don't bother HQ'ing the myth mats usually (putty/cashmere etc).

    May not be the most time effective rotation lol, but it is very reliable, does not use Ing II and is something I've been using since the first week of 2.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    30-60 usually lol.

    But I don't bother HQ'ing the myth mats usually (putty/cashmere etc).

    May not be the most time effective rotation lol, but it is very reliable, does not use Ing II and is something I've been using since the first week of 2.2.
    I suppose if you don't have Ingenuity 2 it's fine. You can get to three star completion in the five steps though, PbP x2, Careful x3 (with Ingenuity 2 on.) Only 50 durability, which would free up 10 durability on those occasions you're using 60 to finish. Whilst three star HQ isn't 'mega difficult' to HQ, there are times RNG is a swine and having that extra step could be the difference between an NQ worth 200k and an HQ worth double.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    I suppose if you don't have Ingenuity 2 it's fine. You can get to three star completion in the five steps though, PbP x2, Careful x3 (with Ingenuity 2 on.) Only 50 durability, which would free up 10 durability on those occasions you're using 60 to finish. Whilst three star HQ isn't 'mega difficult' to HQ, there are times RNG is a swine and having that extra step could be the difference between an NQ worth 200k and an HQ worth double.
    10 Durability costs 26 2/3CP, using Mend II. (or 29 1/3CP using manipulation)

    Your paying 32CP to save 10.

    That 32CP would usually prevent me from using a 2nd Mend II, hence costing me 3 touch moves (30 dura).

    You can argue that you also use it for your Byregot's, but by needing to fit Byregot's and 3 CS2 into 1 Ing II, then you have less leeway to force a "Good" condition for your Byregot's.

    Due to the nerf to Ingenuity, I don't see it as being a great skill for 3 star, thought it can have it's uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    10 Durability costs 26 2/3CP, using Mend II. (or 29 1/3CP using manipulation)

    Your paying 32CP to save 10.

    That 32CP would usually prevent me from using a 2nd Mend II, hence costing me 3 touch moves (30 dura).

    You can argue that you also use it for your Byregot's, but by needing to fit Byregot's and 3 CS2 into 1 Ing II, then you have less leeway to force a "Good" condition for your Byregot's.

    Due to the nerf to Ingenuity, I don't see it as being a great skill for 3 star, thought it can have it's uses.
    Two paths, one destination. I'm sure neither of us struggle to HQ with our methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    It's really not essential for 3 star crafts ^^

    I don't use it at all for my method.

    It's more use than the LTW lvl50 skill... but not one I'd suggest rushing.

    ARM lvl50 on the other hand, I would make my priority if I were Evian.

    Piece by Piece I personally would say is Essential for 3 star crafting with a very high HQ rate.
    While three-star crafting is my ultimate goal, my current goal is to obtain my ilvl70 primary tools! There will be no three-star crafting until I get those anyway, so I'm topping off BSM right now so I can use this rotation as it was intended to be used. Once leve allowances build up again, going to top off my ARM for sure so I can three-star craft
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    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen View Post
    While three-star crafting is my ultimate goal, my current goal is to obtain my ilvl70 primary tools! There will be no three-star crafting until I get those anyway, so I'm topping off BSM right now so I can use this rotation as it was intended to be used. Once leve allowances build up again, going to top off my ARM for sure so I can three-star craft
    Ing II is useful for getting the tools, again I'd not say essential, but you'd save a lot of time having it!

    PbP FTW once you get those tools ;D
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